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Risk of over selling the effectiveness of sanctions when the head of j.p. morgan and goldman sachs and citibank and wells fargo call steve mnuchin and say you're hurting us. sanctions work if you're prepared to bear pain yourself. i don't know if the united states is ready for that. i don't think it would work. that's the real irony of it. we could impose massive sanctions on china and i don't think it would move them. you have to appeal to china's self-interest here. therefore threatening things i don't myself have support -- like nuclear weapons for japan may help get their interest. the onl...

Is begging for war. only the strongest sanctions will enable us to resolve this problem through diplomacy. we have kicked the can down the road long enough. there is no more road left. >> trish: nikki haley also time a consul she wants to vote for new sections on monday. >> sanctioning the north korean economy is a waste of time. it's not an economy, et cetera is in camp for the president's rhetoric about potential use for military force and i think that does make a difference. we are running out of time. the only way to solve the north korean problem is to remove the regime or remove the weap...

Defense capability. the thaad anti-missile system had been put on hold by the new president of south korea. he wanted to look at the environmental impact of this particular weapons capability. and i would say go forward now, put it into operational effect. i would recommend that japan have a similar type of system, and that will get the attention of not only the north koreans, but specifically china and russia. our allies have to join with us, in posing even more severe sanctions that have been recommended by and endorsed by the security council. we have to go after our allies and friends who ...

Their generals. remember, if we shut down their economy, they can't go forward with their program. this legislation builds on a bill of mine last year that will give the president of the united states every tool now to do exactly that. >> bill: why would kim jong-un be moved on this one? >> the problem for kim jong-un is this, he has been able to take advantage of strategic patience. that was the obama administration's plan. through strategic patience what he did was to do last year alone 26 missile tests and two atomic weapons tests. and in that process he has now developed -- he is so close ...

It's a challenging technology. you basically have to be properly positioned with the right kind of weapons capability in order to respond to an immediate launch. >> a stark admission after the pentagon has spent billions on missile defense technology, shep. >> shepard: thanks. gorden clang is here with us, author of "nuclear show down." we talk about their launches and how unstable the regime is. what is different now than a year ago? >> the white house has issued two threats to use force. the clock running out, all options on the table. they're a threat to use force now. you talk about what h...