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Points in '08 and bad economic numbers and gop obstruction impeding progress. so obama arrived on the national scene as an extraordinary politician and now seems a much more ordinary politician and still victory is very much within reach. i think a more ordinary plak politician succeeding in this climate signals progress even more than the success of one who seemed as if he could walk on water. >> i think that's really true and i think that's true also about the idea of the american dream. to me the american dream isn't one or two exceptional people being able to pull themselves up from tough ...

Primetime speaking slot this wednesday at the convention, but any buzz over the boost president clinton can give the convention is matched by what i think are rid outside stories right now about the relationship with these two men and the foe dra drama. whether the former commander in chief is free lance in front of our political panel. steve kornacki. the idea that the obama campaign and frankly bill clinton would be off message on wednesday night with each other seems to be really naive. it's in both of their best interests to get this right. >> no. it absolutely is. especially now. compared...

That happened was the audience did not laugh. it was not received as a joke. martin, the audience cheered. next time you play that tape, notice there's no laughter. the audience cheers it. they think it's a serious and important point that romney just made about his birth certificate and, by inference, the president's birth certificate. >> if i might move on one of the other speakers tonight, rick santorum, who you'll remember from the campaign, offered a number of comments, including that he didn't think the reception was a good idea. tonight he'll be focusing on welfare reform and the romney...

Out, that creates a solidarity with mitt romney who is a victim of the great political correctness machine. >> do you think that is also motivated the welfare attacks? we have five ads on welfare in two and a half weeks when essentially accused president obama on a totally nonfactual basis of being the president of lazy welfare recipients who don't want to work but want your money? >> the hilarious moment is i'm going to take the bait. because i'm now sitting on the "rachel maddow show" show being like, those ads are super racist, but no, it's very difficult when you look at the history of att...

>> so will you see bill clinton and one of the most interesting things from our nbc news/"wall street journal" poll is that you guys would point out that romney wasn't running up the margins with the working class white vote. is this the obama campaign strategy to go after those folks? put bubba, himself, front and center? >> i think so. it's also a way to actually play a little defense. over the past few weeks, the romney campaign has been running a tv ad, hitting president obama on welfare reform, playing bill clinton's role in signing that welfare reform in a very prominent way. by this ad,...