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Jurors learned a lot about the inner workings of former President Donald Trump's circle on Thursday.

Which we will assume is not guilty. he said he is not guilty of these charges. how long does it take? he is in the middle of a campaign if he is the nominee that will culminate in november of 2024. a trial in new york in a year. >> longer than that perhaps, shannon. the motion practice that you will have will be immense. we talk about a congested new york criminal court system where things don't get to trial very fast even in the ordinary course. there is nothing ordinary about this. this could take a very long time. there is going to be a lot of motions. just the whole business of whether bra...

So how important could costello's testimony today be in the decision of whether bragg charges trump or not? >> i think it could be very consequential. robert costello is a highly respected, very experienced criminal defense attorney who was once a highly respected prosecutor in the southern district of new york. cohen also was once a lawyer, but when it comes to credibility, that's about as far as these guys can be compared because cohen has so routinely told different stories about how this hush money payment scheme was hatched and executed, and apparently including one to costello when coste...