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Again extensively, and we have nothing new to add. for any new questions, i would refer you to the president's personal counsel. can't comment on ongoing litigation. we've spoken on this extensively, and i don't have anything beyond that. beyond that, i would refer you to outside counsel. >> there are multiple stories that deserve answers from this white house. answers that so far we're not getting. president trump's former lawyer john dowd floated the idea that the president might be willing to pardon paul manafort and michael flynn. that's according to "the new york times" that reports the c...

President. these are separate issues. and flynn has nothing to do with the president. manafort's business had nothing to do with the president. so at the same time, this may have been they were distancing themselves publicly. >> the question is, whether dowd acted on behalf of the president. it is very clear he would not act without the president's blessing. very clear. >> i got to -- >> we'll come back. >> thank you 57. next, two legal heavyweights join us. also later tonight, with protests breaking out in california in the state capitol.

Times" reported that former trump lawyer john dowd floated the idea of pardoning two key figures while the special counsel was building cases against them. the times report raises questions on whether dowd was trying to discourage michael flynn, the then -- the fired national security adviser, and paul manafort, former head of the trump campaign, from cooperating with investigators. cnn crime and justice reporter shim shimon prokupecz is joining us to talk about this. >> reporter: that's the key question here, if this reporting is true by "the new york times", that's the key question, as you s...

>> nope. we have addressed this once again extensively, and we have nothing new to add. for any new questions, i would advise you to the president's personal counsel. we've spoken on this extensively, anything beyond that, i would refer you to outside council. >> there are multiple stories that deserve answers from this white house. answers that so far we're not getting. president trump's former lawyer floated the idea that the president might be willing to pardon paul manafort and michael flynn. that, of course, raises questions about whether dowd who resigned last week is trying to influence...

With his personal attorney calling to an end of the investigation does have a lot of people weighing in. listen. >> to suggest that mueller should shut down and that all he is looking at is collusion, if you have an innocent client, whether dowd, act like it. russia attacked our country. let special counsel mueller figure that out. and if you believe, as we found, there's no evidence of collusion, you should want special counsel mueller to take all the time and have all the independence he needs to do his job. >> so, john, that is essentially saying, take the time, that's the antithesis of wha...