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Projecting this confidence while in investigation is ongoing. certainly he has been open potentially to some legal problems, and he hasn't been interviewed yet by robert mueller. he could still be. but, you know, in the meantime he's projecting this confidence. >> so where is his potential vulnerability? it centers around the trump tower meeting and his descriptions of that, whether they were truthful? >> yeah, i think so. i agree with rebecca that he looks confident there but he is a little tighter than he was in the famous hannity interview from way back when when he was like, nothing to see...

The president. we know where we are now. the interview does not seem to be in the cards with rudy giuliani. do you think a subpoena at this point is inevitable? >> you know, the subpoena question is still an interesting one, and it probably turns more on whether mueller has the appetite to litigate that issue on appeal. but what's really remarkable here, as you point out, the prosecutor has bent over backwards to make this process accessible for the president's team. and that's what good prosecutors do. they don't play gotcha in these interviews. they let folks know what's on the table and the...

Arrest in the coming days. i wanted to ask if that's the speculation you're hearing and secondly, what sort of response do you think we'll hear from the trump legal team? whether mueller does anything today or not. as the calendar turns into next week and that september deadline passes what should we anticipate hearing tr th ining from them? >> jonathan, we can expect they'll seize on anytime to say that is another reason that the investigation should be discredited. jonathan, your own reporting on the new york end of this has shown that for a witch-hunt, a lot of witches are turning up, and i...

Whether mueller has the authority to run this investigation. now, we did get a colorful statement from roger stone about his former associate. i'll read you part of it. he says that andrew miller is a good father, a devoted husband and a loyal friend. the efforts for squeeze him to bear false despicable. andrew miller has had a wide variety of job, but he's worked on and off for roger stone, as his driver, tech guy. so who knows what the special counsel might want from him. >> you say miller is actually challenging the legality of the mueller investigation. what is his case? >> well, the argum...

There. just overwhelming news on the legal front for the trump team. what happened with paul manafort in terms of eight counts where he's found guilty of bank fraud and tax evasion, and now michael cohen, the long-time fixer and personal lawyer for the president pleading guilty to eight counts, two of which directly involve the president of the united states. clearly an unprecedented day for the government, for the president. shocking i think revelation by lanny davis that this isn't over. when i looked at that interview, what it said to me is we've got a long way to go, and more shoes are goi...