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President trump from president biden. that's a warrant. they required an fbi search, a non consensual warrant driven search, to get the documents for mar-a-lago, and former president trump continues to insist that he's above the law, that he had the right to take whatever documents he chose to from the white house. >> let's bring in msnbc contributor new york times washington correspondent charlie -- is the author of power wars, the relentless rise of presidential authority and secrecy. also with us, former general counsel of the national security agency, glenn kristol, an msnbc legal analyst ...

Maybe this is slightly larger volume, but i don't think that makes a legal difference necessarily between the classified documents that inappropriately accompanied trump and biden as they respectively left -- and their responses to -- that doesn't necessarily help biden enormously politically. republicans are still going to draw the parallel and try to investigate him with their new control of the house. that's inevitable. i'm sure this is deeply embarrassing to him and he wishes it was not happening, but there is that distinction that made a significant difference as a matter of law. >> polit...

Helicopter about. we never get helicopters. very surprising, shocking to hear that something like this went on, and not only a small city, but my city. -- your town or something like that. >> there is a lot that we don't know about what happened last night. but we do know, we cannot accept this as normal. ten people are gone. in another mass shooting in this country. vice president kamala harris today underscoring a dark reality. >> a time of a cultural celebration, and yet another community has been torn apart by senseless gun violence. so, hogan i joined the president ten dr. biden, i know e...

How will biden's case, trump's cases, how they play out differently in court? >> assuming that we ever get to courts. >> right. based on what we know no, i don't see a way that the facts, as we understand, them lead to any day in court for president biden. with respect to former president trump on the other hand. i think it is plausible that jack smith could charge any number of statutes against former president trump. i think the most likely of them is obstruction of a government investigation. charlie was referring previously two months of protracted negotiations. in fact, those allegations ...

Outside of california. a short time from that were expected to get an up date on the overnight should get monterey park of warning. at least ten people were killed. ten others were hurt. sources to nbc news say a man who is characterized as possibly the suspect has been found dead about 20 miles from the shooting scene. and that updates at four 7:30 pm eastern time begins you will see it here, live. now, to the other major story we've been following. the search of the presidents home. discovery of new classified documents. the white house says six new items with classified markings were found ...