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Again, we're all human beings. we watch the game, we support the game, we love the game. we love the flag. i mean, look, my dad, uncles, great uncles, grand fathers served in war. i believe in the american way and everything that's going on, but again, we're talking about equality. >> okay, jarvis, pretty clear on that statement. i appreciate that. dan, what about you? what do you think about the way management from the nfl, the owners, roger goodell, have all responded to the controversy? >> well, the owners don't want them doing this. but the owners also are americans. they're good americans...

Which is again, divide the nation. the subject itself had pretty much fizzled out. until ten days ago when the president brought it back, and now we're sitting here talking about it again, and people are booing at stadiums and players are forced to make a choice. >> so in the end, and this is to all three of you, erin first. who wins this debate? >> you know, alex, i think that's a really good question. but what is clear here is with what is going on, what the president has done is forced a situation, is forcing everyone to confront this problem, to come together over it, and to hopefully push...

>> reporter: and president trump, of course, still stirring the pot here, alex. last night, tweeting, remember, just nine days ago, that speech in alabama where he called colin kaepernick the player who started this kneeling phenomenon an s.o.b. last night, still stirring the pot. president trump saying it's very important that nfl players stand tomorrow and always for playing our national anthem. respect our flag and our country. exclamation point. this is an ongoing problem for roger goodell, the commissioner of the nfl. and the brass of the nfl. reports all during the week saying goodell ha...

I'm alex witt at msnbc world headquarters. it's 1:01 in the east. 10:01 in the west. he's tweeting again. president trump tweets about north korea and seems to dismiss diplomacy all together. what does he mean by wheel. do what has to be done? >> anthem watch. will nfl players stage another league-wide kneeling protest. we're watching the sidelines. >> catching heat, the sunday talk shows grill the trump administration over the response to puerto rico's hurricane plight. >> but let's go to the nfl controversy, considering this hour we have been watching the games, and here's a look at who's ta...