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So there -- it is fair to remember there are that sort of six to ten republicans, people like lindsey graham, maybe orrin hatch, the women senators from maine. there are some votes in play that will decide whether it's 65 or 70 that she gets. >> but to that point of experience, sam stein from the huffington post compared the resumés of kagan and renquist before renquist ascended to the court and he concluded that renquist would be considered something of a novice by the standards some are applying to kagan. what does that do -- this is not the first time thin has been used, but sessions used ...

Or 70 that she gets. >> but to that point of experience, sam stein from the huffington post compared the resumés of kagan and renquist before renquist ascended to the court and he concluded that renquist would be considered something of a novice by the standards some are applying to kagan. what does that do -- this is not the first time thin has been used, but sessions used it today. what does that do to the sessions claim that her experience is thin? >> the argument is thin, i suppose. william renquist was in the office of legal counsel, part of the department of justice. he's a conservative...

Three or four days until the next chance of tornadoes. >> just enough time to clean up and wait for the next round. bill karins helping us out. bill, thank you. we're also keeping eyes on a developing situation. this one in massachusetts. police there are searching for an accused killer that escaped from the state hospital. jeremy price there to undergo a mental health evaluation. price is a black male, 5'10", weighs 200 pounds we're told. he's believed to be wearing dark-colored sweatshirt, light colored pants and sneakers. police warned he should be considered deadline. another headline, thi...

Or chief justice john roberts who had barely been a judge two years when he was picked. the chief justice who mr. roberts replaced was chief justice william renquist who'd never been a judge at all. he was only assistant attorney general when nixon chose him for the court. also consider early warren. brown v. board of education guy. in the history of the u.s. supreme court, 40 justices never served as judges before being nominated to the court. elena kagan with be the 41st. this supreme court nominees must have tons of judicial experience thing is a whole new idea they've only decided to apply...

Marshall, et cetera. so i'm not quite sure what the deal is. this is an incredibly qualified woman. >> just to give you historical perspective, 40 of the 111 supreme court justices in history have had no judicial experience. as the vice president joe biden just mentioned, chief justice william renquist was among them. joining me now from washington, d.c. luke russert with today's "hill say." the question, not just how difficult will this confirmation battle be, who is most frustrated with the pick? it seems as many liberal groups are upset by this as conservatives? >> it's interesting you ment...