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Mandating vaccination for students. what's the danger of this? >> well, poppy, i'm not sure we have to mandate it. that would get an awful lot of pushback from a lot of people. we need to do this on a voluntary basis. and if we can get -- >> but dr. schaffeener, respectfully, there are a lot of vaccines that are mandated in every single state for our kids to go to school, like mmr, like polio, tetanus, diphtheria. >> i understand that, and i believe in those mandates a, believe me. they have to be enacted state by state. there is usually a fairly elaborate political and administrative process ...

In the meantime, i would think that all adults associated with schools should by now be vaccinated. if not, shame on them. quickly get yourself vaccinated. >> yeah, the states banning even mask mandates which is now the recommendation. that's where we are. dr. william schaffeener, thanks so much for helping us. it's difficult to navigate all this information. this afternoon, the senate will vote on whether to move ahead with a bipartisan infrastructure plan, but, well, i said bipartisan. republicans are expected to block that vote. democratic senator chris coons will join me live next. als...

Community. please, get vaccinated. we have plenty of vaccine available. >> straight from the doctor, dr. william schaffeener, thanks so much. >> thank you. >> well, delta airlines says it plans to hire more than 1,000 pilots by next summer because of the huge and really unexpected jump in demand for air travel. this follows yesterday's announcement from american airlines that it is cancelling hundreds of upcoming flights, partly due to shortage of staff. >> that's right. it's not just the airlines struggling to keep employees or fill open positions. i think this headline certainly sums it up. ...

More. more than hearing, say, someone from the government. is that the best path forward here? >> well, it's a path forward, jim. we have to keep doing what we're doing and doing it even more. you know, the eager beavers have been vaccinated. every increment beyond that is going to take work. if you've been reluctant up to now, your reluctance is pretty serious because we've given this vaccine in the united states to over 160 million people. we know it doesn't make your arm fall off. >> yeah. >> so vaccines, i'm sorry i'm being facetious, but the vaccines really are safe and the data show they...

Vaccinate and put you and them at risk. >> not getting vaccinated puts yourself and others at risk. the professor at vanderbuilt university, dr. schaffeener, always good to have you on. we're seeing the health effects right now of many people not getting vaccinated, right? the new infections and new hospitalizations are up more definitively in places with lower vaccination rates and politically the fact is that there is a red state, blue state divide here. how serious is that, in your view? >> jim, i think it's very serious. we're nowhere near mission accomplished yet. clearly nationally and l...