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What did you come away with? >> in addition to dignity, we heard parents, children and families. that came from multiple justices, but it especially came from justice kennedy. the question was asked -- what about the hundreds of thousands of children in america being raised by same-sex parents? don't they deserve the same rights and protections as children being raised by opposite-sex parents? that is a really difficult question for our opposition to answer. they couldn't answer. they didn't have a good answer yesterday. i think that troubles justice kennedy. that was central to his opinion in...

You also to my left have a podium where we're hearing from people like the heritage foundation and others opposed to gay marriage but i will say, it's a very small number compared to the overwhelming majority of people here who are supporting same-sex marriage and they have set up just down the street at a podium where they are also giving their remarks. i will say, jose this crowd is smaller than the one here for the windsor decision of course the one that first expanded gay marriage to all 36 states and the district of columbia but at the same time it's pretty raucous all the same. jose? >> ...

Justice, obviously, antonin scalia, essentially predicted that that ruling by the supreme court would be used successfully in further lawsuits he wrote, the airjity arms well every challenger to a state law restricting marriage to its traditional definition and that future suits would be a shoe to be dropped later. so in a lot of ways, he was right. and that supreme court decision really has paved the way for further successful challenges. >> yeah, you know, i like to joke, but it's not such a joke that there are at least two things, probably more. there are at least two things that justice sc...

Conservative circuits though. and what do you see going forward in the next year? >> well, the cases on the fastest track are the 4th and the 10th circuit and both pretty conservati conservative. you have a virginia case filed by ted olsen and ted boyes who filed the prop 8 case and cases in oklahoma and utah, and, you know, we will see. we will see how the circuits decide it, but as you said, not a single judge since the windsor decision striking down doma has read that decision to in any kind of a way to say that these kinds of bans on same-sex marriage are constitutional and even though the...

So a very interesting development that department of justice is coming down so forcefully on the side of same-sex marriage here. >> and joe, i want you to wrap this, if you will. i had an opportunity back when that ruling happened at the supreme court to actually interview edith windsor. it was such an emotional moment for her to be recognized, and her widow, as well. their marriage, their union, their partnership there. what is the next step? what does this mean in real practical terms for gay married couples? >> well, i think the one thing that's very clear is that if the federal government ...