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Joining me now rick gro grenell. what are your thoughts on this? >> i'm concerned right now we have so much politicization of the intelligence community and the left and the right. we have to root it out. we have to have intelligence agencies that are not cheering for one political party or another. the other guest talked about there has to be a wiretap approval to do due diligence. the idea you would put something forward just to double-check during a highly partisan presidential campaign is outrageous. we note original approval oral request was denied? june. then there may have been one appr...

Wiretap approval to listen to the phone calls of officials as late as october. when you combine that with this "new york times"nd report that obama officials are disseminating information about russia throughout various agencies in the government that will be used during the transition then uncorked during the first 100 days, it seems like a a systematic strategy to take down president trump, pretty devious, wouldn't you say? >> let's divide these, let's take the second one first. the reports that the obama administration officials took information about the contact between the trump campaign ...

>> never? >> never. the fact is we had a briefing on drugs, we asked about guns, they gave us information on the number of guns and so on. they never mentioned "fast and furious" by name. kenneth nelson was in that briefing. more importantly, it's very clear that that's intended to be, if you will, a way to imply that i knew. greta, if i knew, i would have stopped it. more importantly, it wasn't my obligation to know about fast and furious, it was the attorney general's obligation to make sure it didn't happen. >> do you have reason to be suspicious that the attorney general actually knew what...

>> never? >> never. the fact is we had a briefing on drugs, we asked about guns, they gave us information on the number of guns and so on. they never mentioned "fast and furious" by name. kenneth nelson was in that briefing. more importantly, it's very clear that that's intended to be, if you will, a way to imply that i knew. greta, if i knew, i would have stopped it. more importantly, it wasn't my obligation to know about fast and furious, it was the attorney general's obligation to make sure it didn't happen. >> do you have reason to be suspicious that the attorney general actually knew what...