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Limit if we have to shut down government. some say don't shut down government, still try to defund. some say shut down government. you see where everyone stands. i'll tell you 57% of the american public say not in favor of obama care. it's interesting to see who says we're willing to go the distance with it. i think you're seeing people -- you're letting them put their cards in. >> before you get to bob, obama has been amazingly successful creating the divide among add have i sar ris. he's done that immigration nsa -- he allows the republicans to cannibalize themselves like their doing now. yo...

Lighting up the phones and republicans are listening. i am hopeful. i believe every senate republican should stand with the house. i believe ultimately even the senate democrats if their constituents speak out in sufficient numbers will have no choice but to help the american people avert this train wreck . >> red state senators mary l landrieu and others will be in a difficult position here. a lot of attention has been paid to congressman gray's plan. if you -- delay it p if you can't defund it. >> i support that. essentially what the house is putting forward for a vote is the graives plan. i...

Have to get some democrats to join. i guess the question is can he get a majority of republicans in his caucus to say, yes, lets go ahead even if we can't defund health care. that's the critical question. >> right. that i the critical question and no one really knows the answer. but he's had bad luck lately trying to rally his caucus behind any kind of half commonsensical sorts of approaches. it's a very, very tough situation. if he does the right thing, it could cost him his speakership. if he doesn't do the right thing, it could cost every american dearly. >> you think that's a problem? i wo...

Lighting up the phones and republicans are listening. i am hopeful. i believe every senate republican should stand with the house. i believe ultimately even the senate democrats if their constituents speak out in sufficient numbers will have no choice but to help the american people avert this train wreck . >> red state senators mary l landrieu and others will be in a difficult position here. a lot of attention has been paid to congressman gray's plan. if you -- delay it p if you can't defund it. >> i support that. essentially what the house is putting forward for a vote is the graives plan. i...

To do in the house. >> let me ask you about what speaker boehner says, though, because i know you and he have not always seen eye to eye on this issue of the funding of obamacare. he said in march, "do you want to risk the full faith and credit of the united states government over obamacare? that's a very tough argument to make." he was basically saying, we can't defund it. that would be a crazy thing to do at this point, even though he doesn't like it. now of course obviously he's going along with that in part because of people like you and your strong views on this. did you force his hand? >...