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the times also obtained a vide of carlson off camera at discussing his quote, post menopausal fans and whethe they would approve of how he looked on air. in another video carlson i overheard describing a woman h finds yummy. that kind of locker room talk. it posed a threat to fox news. joining me now is curren professor of law and northwestern who served as a assistant va and the manhattan attorney's office, she's als the author of credible, why we doubt accusers and protect abusers and i'm also pleased t be joined by katie phang, host of the katie phang show. thank you for being here tonight. debra, i'll start with you you have a really powerful op-ed in the times, sort of, that is published with conjunction of the beginning o the e. jean carroll in which the right -- heightened significance becaus mr. trump has embraced the rol of a venture on behalf of me
>> it's all just locker room talk where if you heard that before this culture of debasement and violence, that seems to be the halo effect of the trump years and if you want yet anothe example of it, look no further than the freshly fired fox new host tucker carlson. tonight the new york times has new details about what led t the networks breakup wit carlson. according to the times, the fo sports directors found mor embarrassing private tex messages and videos on earth a part of the discovery in the dominion voting systems case dominion lawyers plan to pin tucker carlson down on the messages that were mos demeaning toward women including ones that referred t women both guests an executives using the sea word. the times also obtained a vide of carlson off camera at discussing his quote, post menopausal fans and whethe they would approve of how he looked on air. in another video carlson i overheard describing a woman h finds yummy. that kind of locker room talk.