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Land, the president won reelection, the president won and it's not going anywhere. >> an interesting debate. will carry on. the shut down continues. appreciate you both for joining me. thank you. coming up, more politics and public shaming this time on the baseball field. reggie jackson on his journey. he's in the chair next.
>> i gave the government -- >> wait a minute. >> so -- >> connie -- >> i've given you a good say there. let's go to nira for the final word. >> thank you, piers. >> to deal with this issue whether the worst thing to hit america since slavery? >> now, that's obviously an outrageous remark and what is remarkable about the shut down is that the american people are finding obama care to be more popular. it's improved popularity over the last two weeks probably because of the tactics and also because tens of thousands of americans are actually signing up. we have 40,000 people signing up for health...
>> wait a minute. >> so -- >> connie -- >> i've given you a good say there. let's go to nira for the final word. >> thank you, piers. >> to deal with this issue whether the worst thing to hit america since slavery? >> now, that's obviously an outrageous remark and what is remarkable about the shut down is that the american people are finding obama care to be more popular. it's improved popularity over the last two weeks probably because of the tactics and also because tens of thousands of americans are actually signing up. we have 40,000 people signing up for health care just in new york state...
Way, his way or the highway, then they won't do any spending bills that don't include everything that he wants. that's him unwilling to negotiate, that's him being unwilling to compromise. >> but why is it even a matter of negotiation when it's passed both houses of congress, it's been signed by the president. it's been challenged in the supreme court, it's been upheld by the supreme court. it was a central issue in the 2012 election campaign and the president won reelection. why is that a legitimate point of negotiation right now? >> because it's congress' job to oversee spending. the power o...
Then they won't do any spending bills that don't include everything that he wants. that's him unwilling to negotiate, that's him being unwilling to compromise. >> but why is it even a matter of negotiation when it's passed both houses of congress, it's been signed by the president. it's been challenged in the supreme court, it's been upheld by the supreme court. it was a central issue in the 2012 election campaign and the president won reelection. why is that a legitimate point of negotiation right now? >> because it's congress' job to oversee spending. the power of the purse resides with cong...