>> i gave the government -- >> wait a minute. >> so -- >> connie -- >> i've given you a good say there. let's go to nira for the final word. >> thank you, piers. >> to deal with this issue whether the worst thing to hit america since slavery? >> now, that's obviously an outrageous remark and what is remarkable about the shut down is that the american people are finding obama care to be more popular. it's improved popularity over the last two weeks probably because of the tactics and also because tens of thousands of americans are actually signing up. we have 40,000 people signing up for health care just in new york state alone. so what i think is amazing about this whole talk about prohibition, et cetera, is that this law has been the law of the land, the president won reelection, the president won and it's not going anywhere. >> an interesting debate. will carry on. the shut down continues.