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Sometime soon, and then phase 2 begins, whether they pursue impeachment of the president. john? >> manu raju looifr on tive on . appreciate that. with us abby phillip, michael bender with the "wall street journal," melanie with "poliltico" and also with "time." they're telling the associated press that congress is not following their own rules and precedent with that, and until they do that, i i don't want to be a participant in what i consider to be not only illegal but improper. they need to have a vote. now as they try to go up the food chain, they're having issues with higher level officia...

It's sloppy. it got hacked. that's a problem. i don't think it's a direct analog to what hillary clinton did. she was the secretary of state. >> russians? >> she lied about it a lot. mike pence hasn't lied about his e-mail system. yes, it is sloppy and ironic. >> hypocrisy is the mother's milk of a presidential campaign. so many things people lie about. hillary clinton is secretive. donald trump won'tive tax returns. i don't think it's a big deal. mike pence, if this is an example of him being the honest guy, he may be the only person that comes out clean. >> we are not going talk about breast...