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mccarthy spoke. in front of the same individuals about where the debt talks are going. let's just say nowhere. connell mcshane has more. >> the speaker made reference from that appearance from ronald reagan. he said we have an unsustainable level of debt in this country and he will not support raising the debt ceiling unless something is done about it. spoker mccarthy made a speech to a number of professional financialists in new york. he said there will be a bill that will raise the debt for one year. in exchange for raising it, the speaker has demands. he said federal spending will...

>> neil: but it wouldn't be tied to raising the debt ceiling? >> it should be. >> neil: or like barack obama did with republicans in 2011? >> either way, whether it's tied directly or whether it's a separate event that is greed upon. you'll get the same result. we've lad a spending spree like never before, neil. we have no work fare whatsoever. the deferns has been way underspent. that is all very different today than under reagan. i think they'll come to something. then we're going to let the elections determine what will go on for the past 2024 and goodness knows i hope we change directions ...

The overriding number of people in new york were for it. he never vacillated. there he was. he knew it cost him votes but he didn't change his position. we don't have that today in politics whether democrats or republicans. mario cuomo was a man of principle and integrity. we may have differed on certain issues. i want to tell you he never waivered on his convictions never. >> some interesting dynamics there, hearing him speak you obviously respected him being someone that did stand up for the things he believed in but a lot of areas people they, actually attribute his political career ending ...

Police. all the president has done is see one side of this dispute. and if they would spend -- i heard al vita king on television this morning. if they were spend as much time talking about improving education, the mayor de blasio would stop blocking charter schools, start supporting vouchers so there's better education for black children, if they would start talking about work fare and more work, if they would start talking about the responsibilities of father hood, now we're starting to talk about the real problem. the police problem is a reaction to that and maybe these two police officers,...

Taxpayer. >> my snap guard. >> how do you get a snap card? >> go out to the human resource office and have your birth certificate and your social security card. i don't got a paycheck coming in, so i qualify. how often do you do this? >> every once, every six months. >> right now once a we're. >> things have changed. >> back in 1996 if you were an abled adult like jason with no family, there were limitations. you could get food stamps for only three months every three years. the exception? if you were working at least a 20-hour workweek or participated in a work fare or training program. presi...