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Right there. i'm joined by msnbc international correspondent. steve, would that by the most troubling thing if you're in trump's corner? >> if you break it down on that race, gender, education line, there really is one group there with trump strongly that was there with him in 2016, white men without a college degree. in our nbc news poll here, he's winning them over this perspective democrat by about 45 points, but every other group to some degree is now with the democrat in this matchup. >> is there any cross tab to explain why the women have shifted and the men have stuck? the working guys,...

>> i work with millennials a lot. and i also, like you said, i raised up the next jerks seals they were millennials at the time. and guess what? they were awesome. they were hard-working guys. they went out there and they have been fighting this war for deployment after deployment after deployment. so i have nothing. i try not to look at a group and judge them as a group. i look at their individual merits and see what they do. steve: where does the disconnect come the way they are presented in the media as opposed to what have you seen. >> i think if you go out and write an article and say wel...

We have a tie. beto o'rourke and sherrod brown. what did you think of that? >> it's fine. sherrod my former senator who i thought was going to run, i never believed him. and beto, he's basically unemployed so he has nothing else to do. >> it could be there is a dynamic here. when he got reelected by a huge number -- you were mentioning, mike, actually drafted because they need somebody from that industrial area that will appeal to those -- excuse me -- white working guys that can flip back to the democrats. >> maybe the judges were thinking best flip-flop in the sense of who did it the most de...

You're not running for president, but you're speaking to hbcus, you're going to north carolina. give all the evidence beforehand and get them to deny it. >> he's going to historically black colleges. >> i was at morgan. >> you would do that in south carolina. smart move. right here, sign this document. anyway, we're going to see who flip-flopped the worst or the best -- >> i'm so nervous. >> what was yours? >> sam, i think sam is ahead of the rest of us on these. >> a tie. how boring. up next, best flip-flop of 2020, we have a tie. beto o'rourke and sherrod brown. what did you think of that? >...

And in those states that will be risk prone when it comes to the economy want to know their president is on their side. only 25% report president trump's trade policies have helped their local economies. according to an nbc exit poll, when you look at voters' opinions by region, one the-thif those report their economies have been hurt by trump's trade policies. john, on this, your point, working guys like bobby casey in in pennsylvania who you worked against and sherrod and debbie stavanaug h are the same. they are actually sing crynchro. do democrats have to be synchronized to win those state...