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The summit clapollapsed. it was very embarrassing for both sides but especially embarrassing for chairman kim. it's clear he went back to pyongyang and began firing people, working carefully about what he would need to do. by early may there were signs he decided to move forward. we had an exchange of letters between him and president trump. president trump talked about wonderful letters, my dear friend, unusual stuff. but something else happened since may when kim decided he need to find a way to the talks that had blown up. >> do you agree with this assessment here? >> i agree as far as this...

Working level of dialogue about details of what denuclearization would mean since this process began at the singapore summit last year. we've been waiting for this kind of ability to get down to the details. clearly something was needed to an event that would then prepare a way. so i think we need to be very skeptical as this moves forward, is there anything real yet? but the fact that the working level dialogue is resuming now, that's a good thing. >> what do you think changed behind the scenes that allowed this to unfold? the last negotiating team did not seem to have met a very successful e...

National security risk. i think participating in a dialogue with north korea is an appropriate thing to do. i'm frankly concerned about how we're going about it. as david says, it could work but certainly without precedent. i know folks from the state department both republican, republican administrations who have told me that the lack of preparation for these highly significant meetings is without precedent and it's very difficult to accomplish anything without that kind of preparation and meetings beforehand with officials from both sides. so i don't, you know, frankly, i don't understand th...

Mentioned, prides himself on this personal diplomacy. he had somewhat of a breakthrough with the chinese in his bilateral meeting, suggesting that trade talks would resume, that there would not be more tariffs introduced next week, as he had been threatening to do, and this very surprising decision where he appeared to backtrack on the ban -- selling american equipment to huawei. so, there seemed to be a fall there. there is now this resumption of personal diplomacy between president trump and kim jong-un. and also, you know, the nuance behind this announcement that their teams would be reasse...

What trump has been intimating lately? >> i think it could be. it's important to understand with lindsey graham, he's one of president trump's top allies on the hill. he's really good friends with joe biden and he ran for president himself. he has a certain level of empathy and sympathy for biden and others running. i think stepping back a little bit, you have seen president trump sort of diversify his attack. initially, it was all about biden as he looked like he might be the front-runner. we've also seen him start to talk about other candidates more and more, including elizabeth warren who h...