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I helped to include things like methane fee, and border adjustment tax, but went beyond where president biden and even bernie sanders were, and then on the climate, people will be happy with the product. >> all right. democrat senator mark warner, appreciate your time as always. thank you for being with us. >> thank you. and now, joining us is secretary of labor marty walsh, and i wanted to ask you, because the president is always talking about how he wants the u.s. economy to work for working people, and that is a phrase that he works a lot, and how does this deal help the administration to...

We're back speaking with chris matthews out today with a new book "bobby kennedy, a raging spirit". what can the modern democratic party learn from bobby kennedy 50 years after his death. having lost more than 1,000 seats under barack obama. >> the democratic party in our country began with irish italian, working class people. it started with black people too. they were all together with economic interest. unions, working wages. good job. democrats focussed on social issues. they divided the coalition. it just happened. there's nothing wrong with it, but it happened. they have to get past the ...

What is the next iteration of the party? we'd better start thinking about it and aligning our policies. within this tragedy that happened on tuesday, it is opportunity. great leaders and great organizations find opportunity in tough times like this. >> maybe we need fewer hyphenated democrats and more unhyphenated democrats. regular democrats. that could be the solution. wraed and butter, working wages. the heart of the party. you have a tough road to hoe. >> i love nancy pelosi. she can't get blamed. the question is, can we take house back is this we have to go to all 50 states. red districts...

Stance. which plays well with people who are already going to vote republican. it does nothing to expand the brand at all. and it plays -- >> the republican party growth has been among white working people who didn't go to college. they like trump because he's a nationalist. he voices their indignation why would he stick it in their faces saying you won't get any money from me, and wages are too high? >> it makes no sense for him politically when you look at the base. they're these disenfranchised white working class voters. >> what the do you think of trump, i don't know about the thing with ...

Compete against the world. >> you do not raise the minimum wage. >> i would not raise the minimum. >> every time we raise the minimum wage, the number of jobless people increases. you know, and that's because of those high wages. >> if i thought that raising the minimum wage was the best way to help people increase their pay, i would be all for it, but it isn't. in the 21st century it's a disaster. >> and heidi, this is an odd thing. let's start with trump. he has a great appeal of economic nationalism. the little guy lives on wages. a little guy doesn't get a salary, he gets a per hour. it's ...