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fraud exception, do you agree with that? well, first, yes, we're pretty far down the line. i wouldn't make manafort the exact analog. i think that's the headline. the focus is not on corcoran and bobb. what happened here is they lie about the subpoena. that's flat out obstruction. they brought corcoran to a grand jury, and want to know, and there's some evidence that's independent of all of this that maybe there was fraud in the communications between trump and corcoran. they say, what did trump tell you? he says, well i refuse to answer because of attorney/client privilege. smith says, fine, see you in court, it's the kind of aggressive move you contrasted with mueller up top, that mueller wouldn't do. and it's got trump, and really trump alone in the cross hairs, the question is what was the

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in the national firment. -- firmament, with all of that, jack smith is trying to, based on this new development, what is the evidence of that crime? who directed it? it was donald trump? did he intend to conceal or did he embroil his attorney in the concealing of national security secrets? i think this indicates something important which is dotting all the i's and crossing all the t's in an investigation that could end with criminal charges or could end with a finding that there is not sufficient evidence to prove obstruction at trial. >> harry, tell us how crow see it. i'll put this out there on the table. our friend says this. these are final steps of the investigation. manafort was indicted after ruling mueller could use crime

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