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Here by 2011 at a minimum. so it wouldn't apply. the problem here is -- the root of it or the main part of it is that people coming from noncontiguous countries to the u.s., meaning central american countries like honduras, el salvador, and guatemala, are treated differently than kids who come from mexico or canada. in the case of kids coming from unaccompanied minors from mexico or canada, i believe the average is three days that we take care of them then repatriate them or send them back. in this case, partly because of the law we have under the trafficking victims act, kids who come here ne...

That in itself is scary. so we don't know where this is going. it's very easy to see how this ruling, though it is narrowly about contraception, can be taken in courtrooms all across this nation and applied to all kinds of other discriminatory behavior that has the disguise of religion. and the court has invited that. that scares me. i think it's a bad decision. >> well, one of the things i naught was very interesting about the court asserting that this only applies to contraception is that the justice alito writing in the majority explains some other things that wouldn't apply. he's talked ab...

So we don't know where this is going. it's very easy to see how this ruling, though it is narrowly about contraception, can be taken in courtrooms all across this nation and applied to all kinds of other discriminatory behavior that has the disguise of religion. and the court has invited that. that scares me. i think it's a bad decision. >> well, one of the things i naught was very interesting about the court asserting that this only applies to contraception is that the justice alito writing in the majority explains some other things that wouldn't apply. he's talked about jehovah's witnesses a...

She are struggling with the mere concept of self-defense, and how it applies in this case, and, again, it really goes back to stand your ground, because in non-stand your ground case, quite frankly, this wouldn't apply. because you have to flee. you have to call 911. you can't just stand your ground and -- and basically shoot into a car with so many people. that's never classic self-defense. it's really been a fascinating thing to see the jury grapple with something like that. >> all right. sunny hostin, martin savidge, thanks so much. martin, i know you'll get back with us. we understand ther...

Looking at that, but at this point in time we have no indication that it's -- that it's a factor. >> do we know how the train was being pushed? was it pushed from the back, the engine? >> what was the configuration of the train? the train was being pushed from the back of the train. >> did that cause a derailment? would that cause any problems for it to derail? >> we will certainly be looking at any contribution that may have had in the derailment. >> is it hard to apply the brakes on a train when it's being pushed from the back, the train operator said he tried to apply the brakes, they just ...