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>> thanks very much. joining me now victoria defrancesco soto at university of texas austin and an msnbc political analyst, and todd schulte, president of forward u.s., business and tech leaders committed to meaningful criminal justice reform. victoria, let me start with you. at the first level, to me, what's striking here is a, the trump properties haven't been raided. b, the employers in mississippi apparently face no sanction. and c, when trump is acting as a person, he doesn't view these people as a threat at all. >> it's econ 101, chris, in terms folks come here to the united states to ...

At the first level, to me, what's striking here is a, the trump properties haven't been raided. b, the employers in mississippi apparently face no sanction. and c, when trump is acting as a person, he doesn't view these people as a threat at all. >> it's econ 101, chris, in terms folks come here to the united states to work, migrants come here, because there is a demand, because there is your trump organizations. there is your organizations in mississippi that need poultry processing workers. so there is a demand by the employers. that's why they're coming. if there wasn't a demand, they would...

Ultimate result that we're aiming for is true, fair trade. we wanted to have access to foreign markets for american productsut i believe the president strongly believes in the short-term, 15 months has not produced the results we want on the negotiations. thefore tariffs have been implemented. >> all right. there's news that just crossed . i want to get your reaction. the president putting out a statement. i hope you're aware of it, if not, let me make sure. super bowl champion philadelphia eagles are not coming to the white house tomorrow. no longer coming. because a number of players wouldn'...

Continue to crease enforcement. so new people wouldn't come, encouraged by this amnesty. and the other thing was so that these people, once they get citizenship can't sponsor their relatives, including their parents, who are the real guilty party here. so let's get rid of those chain migration categories. that's why they wanted enforcement, an end to chain migration in exchange for some kind of daca,/dream amnesty. the stakes are very high. we are talking about a lot of folks and a lot of potential people who could come through chain migration. that's why we needed other reforms. not just the ...

Children sitting on buses that couldn't move or waiting for buses that wouldn't come, that couldn't come, the ambulances that were taking twice as long to make it to emergency calls, the frustration, the rage, even the potential tragedy. this is the human story we've talked about when we talked about the closure of those access lanes to the george washington bridge did to ft. lee, new jersey. and it was the question of payback, of apparent political payback that seemingly was directed by members of chris christie's team against the town's democratic mayor. but it also was more than this, more ...