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Whose terrific new book about merkel has just been published. it's called "the chancellor." welcome, kati. first i want to ask you about writing about somebody who is so private. i remember when "time" chose her as person of the year, they had to use a painting of her on the cover because she would not sit for a photograph, and i remember asking the editor of "time," nancy gibbs at the time, when was the last time somebody wouldn't sit -- let alone an interview, wouldn't even sit for a photograph? she said i think it was ayatollah khomeini in 1978 or '79. so this is an extraordinarily guarded ...

A lot of reasons why people will forego high profile representations and rudy guiliani represent as particularly especially thorny one. >> the top u.s. diplomat in ukraine set to testify next week and we've now seen his closed door testimony where he clearly lays out a quid pro quo, gordon sondland, former ambassador for ukraine, and leverage and what does that tell you? >> gordon sondland probably talked to lawyer also. he gave particular testimony he realized wouldn't sit well and age well. it's a significant thing when a witness comes before congress. the first time around you want to make ...

The president said, i would accept help from a foreign power. that's the definition of collusion, not that it is a legal term. that's what people are talking about. he's going to lean on the same thing. he'll continue to say no collusion. the president plays his greatest hits. we've had this conversation, everyone has. he thinks that the impeachment is a politic aal proceeding has sunk in on the american people, he says this is political and i'm great politically, he can rely on that. >> let's dwell on the pregnant cause, when george stephanopoulos asked him why he wouldn't sit down with muell...

Standing to tell the house democrats, take your concerns elsewhere? we're not going to participate? >> well, they can say that. i think the question really is, what can the house then do in reaction? first of all, it looks bad, this is a president who as we've been just discussing says over and over, how can you say i'm innocent i've done nothing wrong this, is a witch-hunt but i'm not going to cooperate in anyway. he's been doing that the same way he wouldn't sit down with mueller for an interview, and yet he has nothing to hide. >> no collusion he has mentioned. >> he's mentioned that once o...

We're not going to participate? >> well, they can say that. i think the question really is, what can the house then do in reaction? first of all, it looks bad, this is a president who as we've been just discussing, how can you say i'm innocent i've done nothing wrong, this is a witch hunt but i'm not going to cooperate in anyway. he's been doing that the same way he wouldn't sit down with mueller for an interview, and yet he has nothing to hide. >> no clougs. >> he's mentioned that once or twice. here, look, this was the result of the election. the house now has subpoena power. will that play ...