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wordsmiths but many of us shy away from the art and the best harness the power of words, poetry. but not my guest today. john cooper clarke once called the punk poet, all his life is used words, rhythm and rhyme to bind human and truth in the chaos of everyday life. thanks to the internet one of his crimes has become a worldwide viral sensation. where does his word magic come from. —— poems. john cooper clarke, welcome to hardtalk. great to have you here. ijust read your memoir in one of the first sentences as this one, all my life all i ever wanted to be was a professional poet....

Poems at that time, and ever since have had far too much human warmth to them to be seen as punk and destructive? i guess so, yeah. it is considered. but there was a general interest in the in the early days of punk, they do read like poetry if you read joe's drama and jones and matlock and johnny rotten, lyrics were very important. were you angry at that time, you are a young man trying to make it, it's difficult, you are from manchester, i wonder whether you felt? ila. are from manchester, i wonder whether you felt?— whether you felt? no, anger wasn't really my _ whether you felt? no, ange...