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Office of president of United States and will preserve, protect and defense the constitution of the u. S. Except where nobody gets killed or robbed. His point is basically that a crime is a crime is a crime, correct . Exactly. I think you see through georges tweet a commonality, again, between he and i. Even though we come from very different sides of the aisle, but a common belief, a core belief in the rule of law in america. And thats a belief that Rudy Giuliani himself shared as a prosecutor. I dont think he was only putting murderers behind bars. There are whole Statute Books being enforce...

Again, even though the man is working for mueller, lying will not be tolerated. very foretelling. let's bring in former acting solicitor general, walter dellinger. great to have you. welcome to "primetime." >> thank you. >> the idea of state of mind and what i'm laying out there, this was always my concern when i heard about the written interrogatories originally, that if they want to know why the president did what he did, it's tough to glean, as we say in the law, from just written answers. fair point? >> fair point. and what's more dramatic, i think, about this latest development, chris, is...

Was always my concern when i heard about the written interrogatories originally, that if they want to know why the president did what he did, it's tough to glean, as we say in the law, from just written answers. fair point? >> fair point. and what's more dramatic, i think, about this latest development, chris, is that if you need to probe individual one, that is the president's state of mind, that means your focus is on the -- the criminal focus is on that individual, that is the president. you don't need to know his state of mind if you are merely seeking information about the actions of othe...