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Pay. >> david gregory pointed out that if senator coburn supports a gang of six plan that raises net tax revenue, he would violate grover norquist's pledge. senator coburn is obviously ready for that fight. >> well, i think, which pledge is most important, david? is the pledge to uphold your oath to the constitution of the united states or a pledge from a special interest group, who claims to speak for all of american conservatives when, in fact, they really don't. >> joining me now, the founder and president of americans for tax reform, grover norquist. grover, thanks for joining me tonight. ...

Isn't much for us to debate. i'm for higher taxes and much, much higher brackets at the tax end. the one tax bill i worked on in the senate which you opposed and i helped get passed by one vote was the biggest tax increase in your history, your worst nightmare. so we couldn't be more opposite on this. but i just wanted to get it out there that the bind that republicans are in, i don't think the public understands outside of washington politics how you have worked this subject for decades. you actually have signatures on documents, on a written pledge from senator coburn and other republican se...

Passing a tax increase in the next two years. and after the next presidential and senate elections, when we have a different senate, and one hopes that a pro-taxpayer president, we'll be able to get significant spending and tax relief. >> and what happens politically to someone who violates their pledge? you can mobilize against them in a republican primary, can't you? >> well, i think if you'd ask george herbert walker bush how his second term went, that was the first president who took the pledge and then broke it two years later and couldn't, after a fairly successful president, george herb...

>> what would jesus take? >> no, not jesus. >> reverend norquist. >> the most powerful man in america who does not sleep in the white house. >> now, grover norquist is facing a challenge. >> republican tom coburn said this about tax reform. >> if taxes end up going up in some capacity, would you not be in violation of that? >> which pledge is more important, david? is the pledge to uphold your oath to the constitution of the united states or a pledge from a special interest group. >> grover norquist is accusing republican senator of oklahoma, tom coburn, of violating the pledge. >> willing to ...