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Probably a little bit on edge, certainly on edge, as we go into really what is going to be the final phase of this, where the game really is in play. >> if mitch mcconnell does decide to call president trump's witnesses which would most likely include the whistle-blower, what do you think we could expect to learn from a full-blown trial? >> we are going to have first of all, a heck of a lot of drama, which has been the case of course for the past couple of weeks. at the same time, too, it is difficult to predict exactly what would come out, that hasn't already come out at this point. there hav...

Stealing computer files from an adversary because they couldn't imagine computer. they couldn't necessarily have imagined wiretapping, because we had no wires in 1789. so what they did is they put in a phrase that the english had used and that have adapted over a period of centuries that take into account that the idea of high crimes and misdemeanors is to get at things that people in office used to strike at the very heart of our democracy. >> and professor, in your written testimony, you mentioned two additional aspects of high crimes and misdemeanors, besides abuse of power. you talked abou...

Involved burglarizing and stealing computer files from an adversary because they couldn't have imagined computers. they couldn't necessarily have imagined wiretapping because we had no wires in 1789. so what they did is they put in a phrase that the english had used and that had adapted over a period of centuries to take into account that the idea of high crimes and misdemeanors is to get at things that people in office use to strike at the very heart of our democracy. >> professor, in your written testimony, you mentioned two additional aspects of high crimes and misdemeanors besides abuse of...

Testimony, is he totally clean now? is he in the clear for being charged for being dishonest or perjury? >> probably. probably. he cleaned it up in a sufficient time to allow the committee to carry on its business. sometimes people are investigated under these kinds of circumstances. i think, you know, an investigation is one thing. actually being charged is another. i think he's probably okay with respect to that given the fact he did clean it up, but, you know, he didn't talk about the famous phone call that we all know about now as i said. why did he leave that out? did he know about it at ...

Snowball derby. >> i don't get why we have this. they got the comedy they've been working on for three years. good night. see you in the morning. >> i thank the gentleman. i thank you both for your testimony today. i would highlight what we've heard this afternoon. first mr. volker, your written testimony in which you say in hindsight i now understand that others saw the idea of involving possible tore rupgs as equivalent to investigating former white house. the latter being unacceptable. in receipt throw spekt you said