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Off camera. is he a sympathetic guy, reasonable guy? what i see with sondland, look, i'm around a bunch of experts. i don't take notes. i don't know what i'm doing here. i bought this position so if these other people tell me this is what i'm supposed to do then this is what i'm supposed to do. i think his honesty comes from, one, being in way over his head, but also realizing, look, if i've got to pin this on rudy i'm going to pin it on rudy because he's the one that directed everybody what to do. i think that's going to be the issue because given what a wild card rudy giuliani has been throu...

Ambassador yovanovitch in getting ready for her hearings to be confirmed, she was briefed by it. how did they not know that and just the notion that somehow this has nothing to do with biden when we know that the only thing the president cares about is biden. i just wish we would just set that aside because it's kind of insulting to our intelligence. >> ambassador, one of the more striking moments in the question and answer part of this testimony was when ambassador sondland sort of takes on this idea that it was some irregular channel. he says the president directed it. rudy giuliani was in i...

And has been listening in. ambassador, we haven't had your take yet after all of this coverage. where this impacts your life's work. what do you make of it? >> well, a couple of things, obviously this is a bombshell. everybody threw sondland under the bus and he dragged everybody with him today because he has nothing to lose so he just is sticking to the facts and the facts are deeply damning to the president of the united states. second point, it's getting lost in the quid pro quo conversation but remember the first quid pro quo was an oval office visit and throughout hours and hours of testi...

Pictures have been making the rounds of social media. maybe our control room can get it on the air, a photo taken with the number of pixels now from a fair distance you can see notations and a picture showing the president's own writing in sharpie on a pad of paper prior to leaving wheels up from the south lawn for austin, texas, by way of andrews talking points, people are looking to take sentence fragments out of this testimony today if it helps their side. >> yeah, and really what sondland is doing is -- >> there they are right there. >> -- a polite way of calling the president out for bein...

And i suspect her written testimony will be invaluable in filling in any blanks that gordon sondland might not yet have refreshed himself about. >> well, there was a question before, willie. obviously, members are reading this as we are. >> what do they do now? i mean, what do they do now? this is incredible. this is going to be really interesting. >> they can't trash this. of course, they can trash this man but this guy was in the tank for donald trump from day one, gave him $1 million. got awarded this ambassadorship and sondland and giuliani went all over europe, and the republicans had hop...