ambassador yovanovitch in getting ready for her hearings to be confirmed, she was briefed by it. how did they not know that and just the notion that somehow this has nothing to do with biden when we know that the only thing the president cares about is biden. i just wish we would just set that aside because it's kind of insulting to our intelligence. >> ambassador, one of the more striking moments in the question and answer part of this testimony was when ambassador sondland sort of takes on this idea that it was some irregular channel. he says the president directed it. rudy giuliani was in it, but -- actually we have it. let's watch. >> that anyone else express any concerns to you about this so-called irregular channel. >> i'm not sure how someone could characterize something as an irregular channel when you're talking to the president of the united states, the secretary of state, the national security