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Extreme measures or plans did do is spur the white house to get the justice department to begin accelerating its efforts to bring a criminal case against assange, so if he was rendered, which is what the cia wanted to do, there would be a legal process that he could face. >> according to reporting, had they figured out what to do with him then once they got ahold of him? >> well, if he was under indictment, then they could, you know, throw him in jail and prosecute him in a court of law. the problem is that much of the time period when all these extreme measures were being debated, there was n...

His nose? is there any indication that these most extreme measures targeting assange were ever shared with or approved by then-president trump? >> it is a little unclear exactly what went to the president. there is some reporting that we cite where this is raised with the president. initially, this is kind of a fascinating tidbit, pompeo didn't even want to brief trump on the vault 7 data loss. >> why? >> he was embarrassed by it, he didn't want to have to tell the president of the united states that his agency had screwed up in some way. but he was told, no, this is too important, you've got ...

Findings or briefings to capitol hill. >> but let me ask you, according to your reporting, what kind of debates took place over the legality of these plots? cia and doj, were they on the same page on any of this? >> yeah, you know, this is one where the trump white house lawyers were raising all sorts of concerns, that the agency was going way beyond what would be legally authorized. remember, at this point when all these plans are being drawn up, there's no indictment of julian assange. even though he had been under investigation for years going back to the publication of the 2010 state depar...

They are spiriting him out. there was even some information they had that he might try to break out in a lawnary cart and then the russian fsb or the operatives would take him to the plane. there was concerns about an active shoot out on the streets of london. that was briefed to trump. he was told this could get ugly. >> i don't even know where to begin to try to wrap this up so i guess i'm not going to other than tell people they really should read this article. it is a fascinating read. anybody who is interested in spy craft or secrets and all that kind of thing, michael, it is extraordinar...