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Smear campaign from radical an impeachment process which is unlike the bureaucrats waging a political process, not a war on the constitution, why criminal trial, different protections for people in this would you say radical situation and i do think that bureaucrats, why would we think that's being reported on taylor and the others are occasion incorrectly. radicals? >> there are a lot of people in this government, you to remember >> clearly wrong before quasi the government is huge and there are a lot of people in this media corporations, government and this has been proven over and over agai...

Also saying that she was, in fact, not the leaker. so i don't know for sure, but i do know that also on top of everything else they've done wrong, if they fired the wrong person, i certainly hope that she sues them and that we all shame them for just completely making a disaster out of this entire thing. howard: just briefly, the leaker according to project veritas put out a statement apologizing to amy robach but saying this has spun into a mission to seek and destroy. in short, it's a mess, kat. >> yeah, it is. it absolutely is, and it's certainly not fair, and i would just like to see some ...

Orator, or he can't run givens wall street, and he was a republican mayor of new york city -- >> he was a democrat before that, just so you know. howard: i know. look, he obviously has concluded that maybe joe biden is going to collapse, he wants to fill the moderate role, but he could end up with 5% of the race, but i'm not seeing much media skepticism here about the mayor with. >> listen, i think the media breaks down in three ways on this. the mainstream media, we like horse races. clearly, we want him in there spending a lot of money so we can report about this. the left-wingers, well, you...

And talks about it with many, >> real clear investigations has many countries and not ukraine. identified eric as howie: you are right they whistleblower, it's already out haven't talked directly with the there, we could be talking about this reporting and talking about president and describing whether that's accurate conversations with rudy giuliani reporting or not and i feel confused why we are pretending and others. -- howie: i want to clarify that republicans make out yesterday that's -- wanting hunter biden to be put on the witness list for >> that might be the first time impeachment hea...

The media be left without a lot of new bombshellses because of the leaks? is. >> well, no, i don't think so because people might ask different questions. also the 8-10 hours that was spent behind closed doors, 4-5 of those hours were the republicans seeming to try to find the name out of the whistleblower so they could out it elsewhere. but the truth of the matter is if we didn't do this, the republicans would say, well, why can't we say what's public? i think this is the opportunity for the republicans to question him. there's a reason why jim jordan has been moved over to the intelligence co...