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They should move forward with it. what senator hatch is saying is simple, if you do that you trun risk of political backlash when democrat desire it in '93, it was the right thing when clinton passed that. it helped us grow. republicans did it in 2005. there might abpolitical switch. what i hear e.j. saying that is a risk they have to take. at the end of the day the country could care less about all of this. they want an answer and at the end of the day jobs will decide this midterm election. >> we're going to come back and talk about the political fallout. i want to ask a point i brought up. ...

Reconciliation is great we're defending the philly buster during the bush years. i think the most important thing to know, they no longer have 60 votes in the senate so they have to do an end run around this process. and if reconciliation isn't so important to this, fine. let's do a conference committee, work out the differences and have the house pass it and the senate pass it. they no longer can do that because the bill was rejected by the public as demonstrated in massachusetts so they need the end run. >> final point on this piece, which is doesn't the president have a bigger problem if he...