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accomplished. >> i am a professor, i am trying to seek a meaningful life. >> she had a prestigious career, a loving husband, a young daughter, but she also had a secret. >> i lived with this nightmare for 18 years. >> and it centered on murder. >> they followed him, they kidnapped him, and then they dumped his body. it was clearly planned. >> but did she? no >> i was in complete shock. they were dangerous and they were violent. >> why did she do it? >> i didn't realize she was involved as deep as she was. >> scholar, professor, mother. >> what is going to happen to my daughter? >> sh...

>> i am a professor, i am trying to seek a meaningful life. >> she had a prestigious career, a loving husband, a young daughter, but she also had a secret. >> i lived with this nightmare for 18 years. >> and it centered on murder. >> they followed him, they kidnapped him, and then they dumped his body. it was clearly planned. >> but did she know? >> i was in complete shock. they were dangerous and they were violent. >> why did she do it? >> i didn't realize she was involved as deep as she was. >> scholar, professor, mother. >> what is going to happen to my daughter? >> she certainly ...

Cases. he intern contacted gonzalez brothers. he says they were surprised to hear from him. >> both brothers said that they had figured that with all the years that had gone past since his murder, that nobody was paying attention anymore. that he was just another young hispanic man, who had been killed and the police probably were not even investigating the case anymore. >> the confirmation of his dna in the shop, was an important step. but the prosecutor knew they needed more. a stronger connection between gonzalo ramirez and his suspected killer gianni van. >> we still needed to establish, h...

Blood might be gonzalo ramirez. but there is nothing certain. >> was it different a second time? around >> there was a significant change. although the crime lab could not say it was definitively mr. ramirez. the numbers were astronomical, that i had to be his. >> more sophisticated testing, led to a stronger conclusion. >> we missed a ramirez had been inside that transmission shop. >> so, in 2010, 15 years after the murder, investigator filch or brought the case to prosecutor mike murray, who is known for his work on cold cases. he intern contacted gonzalez brothers. he says they were surpris...

Old white male against this young hispanic man. what kind of white privilege are they protecting? you know, i thought the -- i thought what happened was i think he stepped into this thing and when the audience made that sound, it created momentum for him. that's why i think he kind of embraced that moment and there was no grace or elegance to the criticism. >> jesse: no. >> greg: he was more like oscar mayer not like oscar wild. he was clunky. having said that i'm a little bit tired of the white knighting going on with biden. i get it. it was a pretty lame predictable insult. but watching ever...