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Tell our client not to speak. people can think, i can say whatever i want, not so. don't say anything. he did and he has. and i think that represents a significant problem as it relates to this case. why? because he talked about michael cohen acting as his lawyer, not his family member, not a longtime confidant, not a person i love and trust and respect. and that raises issues for his defense. and then, of course, it goes to the issue of him being on record now. and so if he's deposed, he could be confronted with it. but his lawyers will isolate this and net event that it's used and, oh, it wi...

We have ethical practices we have to deal with. one of which is informed condition sent. if there's a settlement agreement, we have to talk about it. my client asks, is it a good thing to do, a bad thing to do? how will it affect me? my family, my job. we're ethically bound to do that. and to the extent you don't, assist problem. so it would appear to me that the president by calling him my lawyer could have very easily said, he's like family to me, i love him, would have changed te equation. he said, "my lawyer." and if the president is telling the truth, i believe it could cause problems for...

In a grand jury. bill clinton testifies in the grand jury and says, yes, the relationship was physical. and therefore, he had to tell the truth. and so the problem is, now the president is on record. and so in a deposition, it's fair game, should he depose him, that is mr. avenatti, the president, he can ask him the question about what he went on record as saying. and if he veers away from that, it's very dangerous. because now you're lying under oath, it gets you into -- again, i refer to bill clinton -- impeachment territory because of a lie you tell in the deposition. i think, and i would b...

That. and so the reality then becomes, if you want to get to the truth, the best way you get to it is by having people, wolf, raise that hand and you have a court reporter there and everything is transcribed. and goodness for bid you veer away from what's truthful. and again, we know the president is -- he's very apt to sort of -- we can call it puffing, we can call it misrepresentations, we can call it fabrications. but there are some concerns about things that he says that are not true. you can't do that in a deposition. he can talk to you and do it, he could go on other networks and do it, ...

>> no, i don't know. >> we're also following a new our national correspondent athena jones is joining us. what's the latest on summer zervos' lawsuit? >> trump's lawyers saw the to get this at the very least delayed until he leaves office. they argued that trump did not defame summer because his denials, his repeated denials over allegations were political speech that's protected by the first amendment. last month a new york judge ruled this case can go forward. in her opinion she said no one is above the law and even cited the 1997 supreme court case, the clinton versus jones case. the suprem...