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Subbing cots, an electricity supplies disrupted. At least 65 people have been arrested, including many young people in new york. After give away events, spot chaos. A number of people were injured, including some offices, is organized by the live stream costs, and that was reported. They taught him to give a number of gaming console away. Hes been charged with multiple accounts, including inciting, riot, and Unlawful Assembly 21 year olds and high 6500000. 00 photos on that phone switch and say a 1000000 subscribers on youtube. Theres all the headlines in these continues here and obviously are off to digital disciplines. The, [000 00 00;00] the, at the moment we are in a state of universal instruction. I took a note this morning from the constitution that youre not taking notes departments and then a se, edwards funded something that was important and was really cracked to call these people. Super heroes is not so good because it ships to look for some people, they are super heroes. For others, simply traitors. Whistle blowers like daniel ellsberg, thomas drake, william penny, and edward snowden, packers and activists. Like the wiki likes founder julia songs, and the former bridge, a secret Service Agent on the mushroom. They want us about the complete surveillance of our society. They oppose intelligence agencies, governments and corporations. And for this, they are threatened, pounded and imprisoned, quietly so committed what drives the San Francisco california. The cradle of our modern day computer industry, home to creative technicians and visionaries. Hackers and whistle blowers in a suburb of San Francisco lives the godfather of all whistle blowers or daniel ellsberg. Im probably the only wish to go to that i know of who can make a living is electra because im the one who was put on file for a 115 years under one who was involved in a president being resigning because of his crimes against me, so he made me notorious enough that, uh, that i can make a living as it looks as meg studies Economic Science at harvard and the 1950s. After graduating, he enrolled like many fellow whistle blowers in the military. The and you, she, courage here and around you will the convention ensure high courage. Youve been trained for if youve been disciplined for, but you see if it happens if the training works and people are risking their buddies and their lives every minute. At the end of the 19 sixtys eligible worked at the us embassy and vietnam, he became known by publishing the secret pentagon papers which proved that the us president had lied to the American Public about the vietnam war. For years. Hillsburg decided to make the documents public after meeting peace activist who had refused to draft the i would not have thought of doing it. If i didnt have the example of many, many people who were going to prison for non violent resistance to the traffic in 1969 ellsberg began smuggling parts of the pentagon papers out of the government agency. He worked for and copied them over the following months. A total of 7000. 00 pages of secret documents. In march, 1971, he passed the documents to the new york times, who eventually printed the ellsberg, surrendered himself and was charged with theft and unauthorized possession of pentagon material. The trial collapsed when it came to light, but nixon had illegally wire tapped ellsberg. The ann agents had broken into a psychiatrist office. The ellsberg thereafter remained a free man the day originally are indict me. Then i will say it was only me the patricia next to me to show happens and she, i couldnt figure out why she wasnt indicted by life because she had done a lot of coughing, a lot of things that are fingerprints, all of the paper or vision i saw it was because they didnt watch such a beautiful woman sitting next to me at the defense table in front of the jury. I would advise people now not to do what i do to reveal themselves. If they can avoid it. I reveal my show for the same reason, show them do the essentially we knew that other people would be suspected maybe even charged with circumstantial evidence against people who might look more more guilty than you did the get away. Id rather take your rich to the risk mr. Daniel ellsberg, the we have a 3rd list who will be joining us from russia. One of the, from one of my real heroes. And i think many people in this room, many people in the hacker community, many people in america, edward snowden, welcome. More than 40 years after daniel ellsberg, tennessee employee, edward snowden, emerges as a whistle blower. The usa now as a new public enemy number one. Commanding a now to you, im getting more favorable publicity in 40 years 40 because suddenly people who were all for putting me in prison for life before i realized that i was really a very good guy. I was the i was the good whistle blower. And so im, im totally, of course rejected this from the beginning, even though i didnt want to be a foil for a showing a badly to people that i totally admired. There was a moment at whole backs the whole parts conference in july in new york city ellsberg. I was having a live conversation with us now. We have the front as americans and as members of the global to know the broad outlines of Government Policies that have a Significant Impact on our lives. And i think thats something just a tundra and showed me how to do the wrong way. The there was a moment where he said very clearly very distinctly that i showed him the right way. I had always helped us know to come along. Thomas drake served during the cold war in europe in the 1980s with the u. S. Air force, which included work is the signals analyst, on spite plans covering the soviet union. A job is retired. And then my, my was computers as was it was a vast, a role in your not even the fall of is particularly your very quickly. You have the full set of dialing is the okay, us computers. In the 19 ninetys, drake worked as a Software Developer for the c i a in september 2001. He was hired as a Senior Analyst by the n. S a. My 1st name and job is 911. 00. We were working, you know, 1618 hour days. I mean it was that those 4 months after 911 or a blower because as it was just in your network, we recognized that this was a significant event in history. The, whatever youve gotten the site wherever you got the labs, we need it. Whatever tools you can use to prosecute those behind the 911. Do it was selected as a designated senior executor. And the say the lead up that effort to find anything we had to fight. And so i did. And thats where i brought to the attention of others, tools, techniques, programs, things are in the lab, things or pilots, things that were being just testbed, the mantra that went out from and to say by general hate. And he kept going around, say, we just need to make americans feel safe. Again. The seals, i even had the banners i discovered during those 1st couple, 3 weeks after 911. All this information that we did, you imagine was pouring in after 911, literally being use to monitor and servile in intercept us domestic communications. On extraordinarily broad scale, i was finding this out within days of 911 and others were coming to me saying, what are we doing talk among the snow documents were figures for the u. S. Secret Service Budget since september 11th, they supposedly doubled by 25000000000. 00 to 52000000000. 00 us dollars in 2013. The the surveillance programs continue to metastasize. The continue expand in ways that still have not been fully revealed. And this became sort of the collect at all mindset and mentality. What does that lead to . Well, yes, youre, youre, youre a single organization. You have these other interesting arrangements with certain, uh, internet providers and telecommunication concerns to temptations are enormous. And its like, hey, you know, give us access or back in or open it up. And thats what happened. I mean, and now youre seeing a lot of this on falls, the National Security agency, and a saying for short, the largest Foreign Intelligence Agency in the usa has been responsible for the world wide monitoring of Electronic Communications since 1952 some of the 35000 employees werent comfortable with the massive expansion of surveillance and september 11th all of the colleagues that i knew which was just a handful bill benny ed name is kirk, we be chose to retire from the n a say. In late october 2001. They realize what was happening, they could not stand by and see this version of the constitution and all the work that they had done being used for mass or balance. They left the agency, i beg them to stay. I chose to remain and fight from with it as long as i could i got madison and so on my, my objective was the counter attack. I dont believe in the defense, you know, just sitting back and being defensive. I mean, you have to get out there and attack. So thats what i started doing. That was my point. Its time to attack. So basically was a declaration of war, me against my government, william penny, mathematician and program i initially worked vanessa as an analyst, then leader is the technical director of the secret service. Is the boss of a 6000. 00 strong team. He developed a wire tap program that anonymously filtered and processed large volumes of death the by trying to do the the right thing. Right after 911. 00 trying to make a contribution that would make a difference. They refused to accept it, so it was basically black. So there was nothing i could do, they would accept nothing for me. The, in a say directors decided against the program from vinnies team, and opted for another. They collected much more data. The problem is i help the in designing the, the system thats in yet. Because i knew what was possible once they started using those programs and opening it up to massive data input on everybody in the planet. So it was pretty clear that the as obvious to me how they were using it and what theyre doing with it. So to me, because i understood the design of the systems and so after that, when they started spying on us citizens violating the constitution, i had to leave. I couldnt be a part of all the criminal activity that was going on. I mean, thats fundamentally, i call that treason against the country. So i get out at the end of october, halloween day, 2001. 1 year later benny submitted a complaint to the Us Defense Department for wasting state funds. The complaint was examined but had no effect. The patriot bill benny became a combative whistle blower, a role model for many today the integrity of 2016 building represents the patch housing side of the q between 2 and include victory, black toner, and it gives the total integrity his privacy and his performance is yours and associates integrity and intelligence award recipient. So thank you, the, the new every major leader and then say i know general he personally and i have to say that i have met more people with true integrity and character since i left and said, well, benny opted out of the system. His colleague thomas trick fund against the violation of civil rights from within the, in a say the new for the moment i stood up to my own supervisor. And i went to her and said, what are we doing . Violating the prime directive. Do cannot spine americans out a warrant. You dont understand. I confronted my boss. I go to the, the opposite of a council i confront him. And then he says, dont ask any more questions. Now your face of the dilemma. I didnt give the order, im not the one that was implementing the survey of the mass surveillance program, the digital dragnet. What do you do . I chose to model is the but how do you do that . Knowing theres a master Bills Program and knowing the say was targeting targeting journalist the i made arrangements and encrypted form to communicate anonymously. With this reporter the then i made a decision that i would meet the report that was in february of 2007. The, the journalist subsequently published a number of articles about the waste and mismanagement in the an essay. The repercussions were enormous. But the in a say, let the attacks come to nothing. As drake did not prove the central part of his criticism with documents. This tactics suddenly stopped working in 2013 edward said it was material the stuff he took a made it absolutely impossible for them to deny what they were doing because its simply laid out in their terms on their slides what they were doing and it was impossible for them to denied. I dont think Mister Snyder was paid for the way in which these disclosures happened. Had been, had been damaged to the night of states and damaging to our intelligence capabilities. The people, as, as i see is the patriot or trade or, you know, thats the headline and all these things. Edward snowden, patriot j that drives me nuts. The very thought, you know, that people could regarding, was a traitor. We will likely of face is the cost in human lives, on tomorrows battlefield, or in, in some, in some, some place where, where we will put our, our military forces. You know, when we ask them to go into harms way. And i think thats, thats the greatest cost that we face with the disclosures that have of that had been presented so far. Snowden was the one person who can say, who did what he absolutely should have done. How many people should have done working good to me is revealing. This is global trip to potential for democracy. Any history doesnt let me know obedience to a story, putting aside your obligations to your people, to your country. So the benefit of your government is the offices of patriotism until the revelations by edward snowden, the warnings of intelligence agency, critics were always shrugged office speculation. Only after hit publish all the original and as a document was their proof and concrete evidence provided for the 1st time the document should make a difference. And this more risky to do that. It also makes all the difference in terms of political effect showed in reading an i gave the documents less than one percent of the signed documents have been published. And thats terrible. Or to terrible things those, those documents do not belong to a drones. They do not belong to a website, or they do not belong to the National Security agency. They belong to history. They are part of something that humanity has gone through. Every single one of us have been, has been a victim of National Security agencies by all human beings is the internet of victims on it. And the victims deserves tonight. What has happened to the the opportunity is in producing a very broad global average about what has happened in every country and informing all the victims of that surveillance about what is actually happening to them and releasing it off documents. Sorry, those all the Technical Industries and hackers and computer programs can and all the governments can work out how to protect julian assange. Pattern journalist was interested in Computer Programming from an early age. As a teenager, he had already hacked into 4 and data systems and military networks. Later, he studied physics and mathematics and melbourne. In 2006, he founded the whistle blowing website wiki linux, which publishes secret documents of governments, intelligence agencies, and corporations. Kind of a, oh sorry, pauls, an inside edit site. It was an inside. I would say that i was never inside of i was inside you know, the tree intelligence of a companys computer hack a later than our analysts analyzing the image. And so i had a city can sense for what they were about, but i never had that here that one should work for these organizations. For people who are in the us National Security system, it was like their own drug drug that made them powerful because there were groups, it has a lot of power. And the system has a way of talking about how the world works and how United States empire is a good thing. I can take a long time to watch that drug out of the system that knows what it does. Anybody entirely watch that advocate system. But the more recent was the low as they still have perhaps some, some way to go. The only difference i have for massages i think the only thing is i think that he probably believes more in the value of total or near total transference. For an item on our lot in wont be attending the summit in south africa with an international warrant out for the rest for suspected war. Fine. Can you travel anywhere . So im told stories from across Asian Pacific 1. 00 oh 1. 00 east. Explain the issues affecting the place, the most populous region. The rates for the white house keeps up with donald trump take pump in the republican policies, 1st the rebates, or holds its own private people. Empower investigates. The topic impacts on ukraines fragile environment, and thats the temperature of solar and biodiversity plummets the Global Environmental facility. To coordinate finance for international action, assembled in canada focused on l. G 0, the african narratives from african perspectives. Whatever has been done before, can be done even better as long as the human being is doing it. You can shoot document reese from an african filmmakers from mozambie. And can you from i am from the, the on the i. So p team in east and central, giant little choppers and can yet, i like africa direct on. Ill just sierra at this market at that rate in eastern, showing the suit in his power and his acceptance alongside the french trying to do these refugees. Im able to receive for day hed come here to buy business is risk for stuff on the side or just as prizes have tripled in the past few weeks. Names, major dealers of exploitation Officials Say shortage is an inflation when increased conditions have grown worse for local people and agencies stepping and ive never seen such a big operation. So 40 funded now were already on the age where we would not be able to provide them. A meal of the child has been hosting refugees from sedan for more than 20 years, but, but the resources including food and water running. No, i mean here. Yeah. That could lead to violence between those who are being shelters. And that was, it has refugees continue to cross the border. Many fee attention of the people here, or rise even father. The wiki, lex highly explosive documents, can still be published anonymously, the otherwise would be withheld through non disclosure or censorship. According to wikileaks, all documents are checked for authenticity. One major aim is deforest corporations and intelligence agencies to a by, to more transparency and social responsibility to shed light on their well kept secrets which cover up illegal and immoral behavior. The finance to get on here. I think from the assess last fall in love of on this domain. It says yeah, its um and what make it fun for you with somebody kind of share. So thoughts, enough, got his time for that though sort of of kind of depends, i enter the assistance rhetorical counter attack, which is like something out of kindergarten. Which is to say, no, no, no, you do that. And uh, unfortunately the us prices so sort of so uh, but it print prints this nonsense so anyways, prevails very concretely, extremely accurate documentation have us. His own records shows that it was falls in one way or another. And it does have more than a 120000 people in iraq and afghanistan between 20042010 the us government, the responses maybe hypothetically as a result of this release of this material. So mass can family or us soldier couldnt face risk, thats the standard accusation or like what tom drake did threaten military lives. Well, exposing corruption, fraud, waste, and abuse. Doesnt threaten military lives, continuing them threatens military lives. Now the end result is that they are forced to admit last year on the earth that a Single Person had been home as a result of publications upon or the sons demands the protection of individual privacy on the one hand. And on the other radical transparency of governments and corporations. What are the motives of whistle blowers . Why the intelligence insiders step forward into the light risk in their careers, their lives to expose the wrong doings of those in power . Is there a common, a collective mission of this Broad Alliance and wild mix of patriotic secret Service Agents and arc attackers, cyberpunk, and intellectual publicists. The common theme with among all of us is the, the, the that we support human rights. And then we support the publics right to know information, especially when it threatens the public or threatens the, the democracy or freedom of individuals. I mean, thats the kind of common theme that goes through all i think. But its a lonely act that you commit as one person, but i was convicted by the truth of what i knew. So i made a conscious choice the violate a non disclosure agreement. We also took the oath to protect and defend the constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. So that means even our government, if its violating the constitution, so we have, we have the responsibility to stand up against that. Its the moral agency. Youre, youre confronted by activity that demands a response and you are in a place where you have access to information. You have access your eye, witness to such an eye witness or you are, you are brought into awareness scrubbing from 5 to 5 for sheet and especially on what youve up to and have a specific going prusio on when hes been off them on them. Just one just contest has gone into funds initially live on dissociation warranty bucks. One just have us to see it as a win win. And we divide that by the roof. Comes up my iphone box between the bundle of tons of you think of then buses done on site. This does the future as that style in some sense of independence. Just need to kind of step. So ill send both is what i need. So in a different desktop, this is our new show. Its one mentioned to found it is missing. Hi me, a once is art in this isnt this of knowing for problem this number off of that 5 on card image in high profile leaks. We funded funding for lending order from snowden to start that they didnt the website one time just its just as a team, fine. Bob just kinda wanted to design as obviously good when they shouldnt align us to music. We have always the stomach problems to call these people. Super heroes is not so good because it strips them up on a personal say, well, they did it. I admire that, that theyre not me. Im not a super hero who thinks of themselves as a super hero only not seen or 16 year old. A dream of it. You know so, so thats your excuse for not doing it. It doesnt take a super here. And these people, none of these people would have been identified as super here of my call the probably okay. So its loading here. It is basically the all the name be on to it as minus think is that. Lets see, i have him on him on top plus and was taught him this most often as talk is please keep it off. Took the one in sign in for me to contact. Somebody tried twice and it wont be called to be another because the last time you typed in the home, the content of the onions i think was one would say though, 15th to solve. So they posted so and if somebody kinda is based on the deal is up at this time with us, thats one of the assistant heads behind the naturally so it was loaded on to any longer at least same thing in i. So i thought i had to say in the, in a c months and the same to are things can im to say i was kept out the totes, i think, 12 it almost if its modem. Lets mendes, im be letting seeing him on 3 be snowed as a month between asperity to be interesting. Lucas cards and im really coming to a toner as possible. A rush talks about an explanation from lots and that to some thoughts. As mentioned, you shouldnt have to go cons expense and vince based on the left and used to, i know for, for one device be shopping in constituents to show up. This would be the best size of what does a slip that arent on the, i dont know to, you know, the diamond confronted design . Does it, does that for the pc, but soluble thats most students ive all pledged on shift. I got some how so it is we have a new month to most as to the each democracy session with the executive branch of each country, whether its normally dont credit card, not knowing every thing about the private lives of all of their citizens for legislators, their journal if their judges and their ordinary people who can be turned into informants with those people knowing almost nothing about to go to the government be okay and secretive and the people being transfer. You guys, this is the most ridiculous ive ever seen. You know, your smile, everybody in the country and everybody in the world, youre not even bothering to get a court order around inside your secret. If you dont have privacy and your communications to be called guarantee, you can hold a telephone conversation or write an email, a few stuff from the internet, read books, and once that is known to deal with ortiz and it can, you begin to so sensor what you say and what you read any marshall is a former agent of the British National intelligence agency, m i 5 you begin to withdrawal a little bit field in the life because youre told you carla mentioned you being treated by my side. And that means that people tend to focus much more on that life within my 5. So you begin to socialize a lot more with other people that because you can talk about stuff. And also you end up mainly and in relationships with your fellow intelligence office, which is how i met my phone with honda and colleague, david china. When she made the illegal practices of the Intelligent Service public any more show supported him in becoming a whistle blower. In 1997, shortly before the publication of the secret documents, the couple flew to france. They went underground for a year and subsequently lived in paris for 2 years. In 2000 they returned to london. Shaleigh went to prison, marshall was spared. Since then, she fights for Government Accountability and campaigns for the rights of whistle blowers when data changes and i ended up getting on the wrong whistle on the serious crimes. For me, like 5, we were very conscious of exactly how they could be talking to you as an investigator. Yes. So wherever we love we to, well the tests are not the compromised, the computer might be compromised. There might be microphones in where we were living. There might be a video cameras recording what we did, and also people might be tend to vote against us. So there will be different techniques that they can use. And this was way back in the ninetys and a little bit or so even at that point when were on the run for me and my 5 cause here we, you see any show far way that we need to communicate to each other securely. Which was to put a piece of cloth. So ceramic on the surface of one sheet of paper on it. And then you cover it says nothing can read what you write when the paper you dont say anything. You just write. Well, he went to the piece paper and then he without the other person to read that message. So thats no one is that could be no video and it could be no imprint under that one piece of paper. Then of course you have to get rid of that piece of paper, so you have to balance of po, her eyes, the ashes, and the, the cost. Its the wings to the system to do. Because we know that computers, tennessee that can be customized. The video can be switched over, maybe the audio can be switched. They can look for some keyboards, they can even, and this comes from a smooth disclosures. They can even use my quays, a parody to be moved to the screen and read what youre typing. The we live in a digital world, were little remains and see turning privacy into another luxury good, the blink Science Fiction visions of a powerful surveillance and apparatus with seemingly endless technical possibilities for now only seems a question this time. How does this change our behavior of every move we make . Every word we say is recorded and that allies which rules what we have to play and whose writing script . Having lived with that sense and demick surveillance, i can tell you its a crisis to the human spirit. So once you lose that sense of privacy and you start to self sense, so you start to be an effective and fully integrated 6. And if that country supremacy in my view is the last defense against the slide towards a Police Station to tell us hiring this. And if you like all your rights for a moment, youve lost them for a lifetime. And thats why this matters is because it happened and we didnt know that we were told the. 2 the use the word if i have nothing to fear, youll 0 that language. Ok. Church or you live in apartment or house . Yes. Well just give me a piece. Yeah. A car around it or rather ready to release it . Yeah. Your partners. Do you use a google, you have a gmail and now you have facebook will give you all your passwords. Do you have medical records turn those over to me too. Oh, by the way, all of the Bank Accounts and open records, it just seems to me for safe keeping. You have independent courts. Can you have independent press . None of that. And as a now, as the potential to know, every source of every journalist of every store by following the e mails following the phones, following the people, we started gps with their, with their i phones names. I think these are, these are spinet circling things up. This one, yeah, yeah, and a and a must move a whole same thing and put a tokens, thoughts, and they are 3 massive and its a general is not about to value. Its not about saving me. Its about surveillance. Us collect. Its about watching the company for everybody in the country and on a global scale, the in ours contrast to the recently emerged, facts, great public outcry has not yet been heard. No, why dont people cant. And you k, its very easy on said putney is cultural because hes still in love with james bold. And political leaders immediately came out in Defense Intelligence agencies. Say we know what they do, they fold it a little, everyone go back to sleep, dont worry. So the basic theme frame use it and you k, it wasnt, i think in as i said, usa brazil in germany. But its amazing how quickly people forget on this and this tells minus the self this out when the input on. So it makes my, if this 100 bucks on gross while he comes up for some reason and something kind of gone down to them, a little bit swap even put on some clothes being placed on the home. The tv needs some good to me to bought. You know, so if i can get into news when it became known in autumn, 2013, that the private cell phone of german chancellor uncle america was tapped by the n. A say, the public outcry in germany was initially large until then, the german American Friendship had been close, and germany believe to be in equal parts of the United States, defense spine and france. Of course they do. Everybody does this. I mean, we caught the is really spying on us several times. What did that do to our relationship, but not really anything, because we know everybody does that. Okay. If youre a leader of a country in the world, youre a target. Everybody wants to know what youre thinking. So you are a target, friends and foes, right. Everybodys looking to see or trying to find out what youre thinking. Universally true. I mean thats, thats why diplomacy was started right back in thousands of years ago. So, so, i mean, its nothing new chancellor merkel when she found that or, or private phone was being tapped. I mean, she should have under understood that from the beginning. I mean her and her security should have told her that from the beginning and giving her some protection. Since all the leaders understood it, the fact that its exposed you have to object maybe publicly, but in reality afterwards, you the relationship is too important to jeopardize just for a simple thing that you already knew was happening. As, as you have listed, i know this is you mentioned this into a c a the in different mid season fair. And as a what vicki leaks, its the n as a fair that im getting the envelopes to the to own basel husband. Few see tonight of us can conclude by the current on the mucus codes on that getting to that screen doesnt end up to focus on that to go, let me give you citizen. Thats the only pipe, the following relation to both of those is exactly the same as the problem with the Global Warming executive side. Its not the full effect here right now individually. Why is the Global Warming interested in your it was, and as i interested in quite well, warming affects everyone because in general, changing things folks of ions affects everyone because it leads to in general change. And the nature of civilization, Global Warming is invisible. A tangible you want me to have a glimpse maybe today wasnt good. Hold on. I dont like is that going settings up . So the same way, message surveillance is invisible, is conducted at these points that connect, comes together or inside experience things into google. And they dont explain me sophisticated and complex technologies, but everyone except specialists does not understand specialists, understand. Its saying that everyone else, my god, can you see whats happening . So my relation to greenhouse gases, climate scientists understand that saying my god, kind of see whats happening in the case of the Climate Science folders, account and lobby, which is the fossil fuel companies. And all those profiting from that and the cases folks of violence. First, the ssl is Industry Intelligence agencies and so on and older i was looking down that information and profit from it and form will be in the other direction. So very soon the see the tears tax mixed the mass surveillance a Necessary Evil for many the much quoted if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear. Often legitimizes, this new thing of covert agencies get many are unaware of the actual extent of the surveillance, the, basically a big data from which provides the raw data that seems then be analyzed filters. It can be subject to tools for g is for it says every thing you do is being analyzed, its being, its being measured the but the Intelligence Services are not the only ones Monitoring Communications and processing mess of data. Also, private corporations like google, amazon, facebook and apple collecting millions of pieces of information about how to analyze and monetize the tax actually gives us out folks, thats not a sac that oil. A pennsylvania shit that the cynthia washed of this islands wants to be on this as best bit annoying, viewed shift for the civic, not to see the horse stuff tango seemed with us ask for it to begin this. We dont really know what exactly happens with our own digital trans. Our data is transferred invisibly to huge data centers. Supplementing into a complex, new identity. Creating our digital itself, the smartphones capture communication behavior alone when, where and with whom we talk the data we create to assembling our digital self is also of interest as a juicy source of information for the intelligence community. And its not just i say instead of like say i mean may slow things out of the state. They were tapping the 5 line between the google servers, yet they didnt even know this is going on because it had a lot of violence. Also, tracy had to, as a way to came out those fine on us and the National Security agency on this side. There was a risk when coming to the embassy to apply for 5 on the you gotta remember the inside the terms to their trumpet. These things are holding these guys up in as examples to say, look, if you say whats going on if you step on the line, even if, even if youre doing it for the right reasons, even if youre doing it the right there. The, the the, in the global story to gauge financial crime, facts rely on data bases for customer trends. And it requires you to ensure that you know who that person is and you understand the risk to that person brings to