He goes, maybe im immune. I have no idea what that means. Jonathan you are not alone. Lets move from the theater of the last 24 hours to the drama of the polls this morning. The former vp joe biden with a widening lead in the cnn poll this morning. It is not a predictor of what will happen, but a snapshot of the mood of this country, and it straddles that covid test that was positive. Poll, octoberis 4, very important this morning. Tom i read every word of the polling. A 3. 6 margin of error. Are thein there subsets on covid to come on the economy, and the rest of the pole. That gap, as they say in the text, is widening from the nbc wall street journal poll of just a few days ago. Jonathan yields this morning on the tenure tom out of control. Snoozer finally, the over in the treasury market. Lisa out of control . Jonathan only one of us is out of control, lisa. [laughter] tom go to cash. Lisa we are still going to be checking out the data. I am going to take you back 12 months ago, when we cared about trade in the trade deal with china. It 30 am, we get the u. S. August trade balance, and what you can see 8 30 a. M. , we get the u. S. August trade balance, and what you can see is the trade deficit deepening for the u. S. With china as the pandemic has gone on. China being very far away from their targets. We may get a new read on that today. Jacob will will be speaking at the National Association of business economics. To your point, this is really the key issue. What more are they willing to do, and at what point will they come in with additional fiscal support if markets have further disruption . At 11 30 am, ecb chief economist philip lane is expected to speak at the same event to give a sense of the european aspect. We are seeing the worsening virus case. They are willing to do more. They are preparing to do more. Could mean even more negative rates, although again, what are the trigger points . So much uncertainty with respect to further easing. We do have more certainty that they dont plan on tightening anytime soon. Jonathan the language from the ecb president this morning could mean absolutely anything. We stand ready to address the situation as it develops, and to calibrate and recalibrate what should be calibrated or recalibrated. Tom have you got that . Our heads are spinning here as we take unorthodox economics, fold them into what the actual nuance is in the political moment. Will we see that second debate . That is one thing percolating this morning. What are we going to do on october 15 with the debate . Jonathan a debate with the vp before we get there. Shaping up as follows in the United States. Equity futures on the s p 500 slightly negative after a nice percent. Ins, down 0. 2 in foreignexchange, eurodollar 1. 1780. We will hear from chairman lagarde a little bit later from madame lagarde a little bit later, and from chairman powell. Monday, just an little bit lower on tuesday, but the monday price action everyone is still reacting to. Wicking up after sleeping for the last four months or so, peter tchir, Academy Security had of microstrategy. I know you have been paying securities head of macro strategy. I know you have been paying attention. Im just kidding. The president seemingly on the road to recovery, or was it the polls this morning . Arer i think the polls helping because it is pushing towards stimulus. We will see more bandaid stimulus like we are seeing, but the market is starting to price in that we are going to see infrastructure stimulus. We are going to see real spending. That is going to drop a lot more bonds into the bond market. It is already had trouble digesting bonds in the treasury market. I think you see the 10 year go to 1 , b 1. 2 per may be 1. 25 . Tom i am looking at the failure of two yield rallies since march. It is called a double pole hi top. We go up and yield up in yield, and that we go down again. What does that signal . Peter i think we have kind of hit the limits of where we can get in terms of lower yield. Stockwhen we had that market volatility recently and we were down on stocks, treasuries barely budged. Finally, the move index that really looks at implied volatility in the treasury market, it has been very low. People havent been hedging any sort of Interest Rate risk, so another reason i think we are susceptible to a fairly rapid move to 1. 25 on the 10 year. Lisa that seems like a lot, given the stasis we have seen in the bond market recently. Will that get the feds attention . Peter i dont think so. Above 1 they start paying attention, and may be do things to start ensuring we dont get above 1. 25 , but if you look at the messaging over the past month or two, they would not be unhappy to see slightly higher yield and a steeper curve. The fed has done a good job trying to ensure banks can make some money. We are not going to negative yields. I think they are the worst thing possible for the economy. I think the fed wants to see a steeper yield curve. They talk about inflation expectations, so it suits their agenda. Jonathan tell that to the cleveland fed. Mester mester loretta saying yesterday that we could shift as we did in the great recession. Peter as we start seeing higher fed will stepthe up and buy more treasuries. Then we will hear more about your ed clere control about yield curve control. Is one reason i remain bearish on the dollar. Any inflation which has normally express itself in higher yields is going to be tamped down by the fed, and that money is going to have to find itself somewhere else, so it is going to express itself in dollar weakness. So inflation is going to mean dollar weakness, not higher yields. Tom does it matter to you as a market guy that the economists are petitioning inflation among goods and services . , servicelation maybe sector looks like substantial disinflation. Does that stuff matter to you . Peter it does a little bit, but over the longterm, i think we will see equalization. I think if we get this infrastructure spending, for the first time in a long time, we might see some real competition to higher, midlevel type employees. People who can manage plants, production facilities. That could plague wage inflation, which has been really lacking. Lisa do you think it is inconsistent for equities to continue to rally in tandem, or do you think they will continue their rush upward based on this extra support fiscally, as well as an improving economy at the end of the pandemic . Peter it is going to sound crazy, but i actually like dividend stocks. Dividend stocks did not respond at all too low yield, so i think you will see a normalization, almost a reversal trade. I would have called it a reopening trade a few months ago. Tech isnk big particularly susceptible, depending on who wins. They may be a target for paying a lot of the bills. I continue to like the performance we have seen in reopening. I really liked the fact that the russell 2000 has been doing well of late. I think we could see a real asong Domestic Company focus spending comes online. Jonathan lets separate these issues out. There are events that squeeze positions, and there are events that drives durable change. The thing that people are worried about going into november is that we dont have a result. The thing that squeezes positions. The who is what drives durable change. ,f somebody wins, i. E. Biden that would sweep positions to the other side as well. But what drives durable changes, that is the person, the policy. Are we conflating the two issues at the moment . Peter a little bit, but when you look beyond the messaging, what is most important to me is will we get fiscal stimulus, will we get infrastructure spending, will we try to rebuild the manufacturing base. To me, the message from both sides very similar. If i think about what is going to be most important here is do we drive fiscal stimulus. I think the answer is yes, regardless who wins. I suspect that at the end of 2021, we will have a better job situation in the u. S. Then we had at the start of 2020. Jonathan peter tchir, great to catch up as always. Tom, this is the conversation of the moment on wall street. In the last 24 hours, people we areup to say beginning to see price inflation. Then on higher taxes, they say it is beginning to water down. Is that an educated guess, or a real piece of analysis . I dont think we know until we approach next year because we dont know what the policy approaches are. Most things dont often happen anyway. What is the number one priority . I dont think you get your hands around that for a long while. In the last election, that acceptance speech by President Trump, he mentioned infrastructure. That market off to the races. Equities turned around. I wonder what that speech sounds like, whoever makes it in the coming weeks. Tom we will see. I will say the landscape has changed in the last 24 hours with the president s movement to the white house this morning, and also the relative quiet of Vice President biden. We havent heard much policy. Dash. A policyless jonathan we will focus on the policy a little bit later with florida congressman michael walts. Good morning to you all Michael Waltz. Good morning to you all. This is bloomberg surveillance. Ritika President Trump and his allies look to capitalize on his release from the hospital. They are painting his return to the white house as a metaphor for his strength a month before the election. 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This is bloomberg. Pres. Trump dont let it dominate. Dont let it take over your lives. Dont let that happen. We are the greatest country in the world. We are going back to work. We are going to be back out front. Jonathan the president of the United States in the last 24 hours. Good morning to you all. Alongside tom keene and lisa abramowicz, im jonathan ferro. Two hours and 12 minutes away from the opening bell. Your price action taping up as follows this tuesday morning. Equity futures still negative, down six points on the s p 500. Eurodollar unchanged, 1. 1783. Alongan powell later, with ecb president Christine Lagarde at another event. The story of the week already, we have a breakout in treasury yields. The president s health, according to his doctors, on track, cautiously saying we are on the road to recovery. The ism Services Read monday better. And we could avoid the political calamity of november 4 and avoid maybe not having a winner that day helping out markets as well. Risk diminishing a little bit this tuesday. Tom i like how you mention also that the polling may be indicates we wont get that drag from the first tuesday of november into december, and some gloomy people suggest, into january as well. He is in salt lake city, our chief washington correspondent Kevin Cirilli. Tomorrow night, the vice debate. Tial Kevin Cirilli joins us right now. The polling that has come out come the nbc poll and now the cnn poll, how does that change things for the Biden Campaign . How to they adapt to the good news . Kevin theres no question that democratic president ial nominee joe biden has the clear advantage amongst the polls, not just at the national level, now in double digits, according to the poll within the last 24 hours, but also in battleground states like pennsylvania and wisconsin, where local polls had him also up by 8 at least. A campaign is a political chess match, but right now, the president recovering from covid19 at the white house, those chess pieces are off the board. No more campaign rallies. No more abilities to meet oneonone with donors. All of that adds to an increased amount of pressure for Vice President mike pence here in salt lake city. The Trump Campaign needs a major shift in terms of the dynamics of this race, and they are looking to get it here in salt lake come over youve got pence, who was leading the Coronavirus Task force in the administration, and senator kamala harris, who is to try to draw sharp contrast among republicans. Tom the Vice President hours ago was studying the 25th of and meant of the constitution 25th amendment of the constitution to figure out whose duty it would be if things get worse. Hes in charge of the covid credit for the president. Its really worked out. Right. How was he going to defend this and change the vector for the president . Kevin i say this very simply because campaigns are essentially small businesses. So obviously, the ceo returning to work, but staffers at every level have contracted this virus. They are not immune to this virus, even though it is the office of. The executive, that has led to a from thelevel of angst lowest of low staffers to the upper echelons in terms of the inner circle of the president s closest advisors. All of that goes to show you what we are shaping up to have in salt lake city, which is a debate where youve got the New York Times reporting that the Debate Commission is reportedly considering a virtual debate in miami next week, and a debate here in salt lake, where both of these vp nominees are just a heartbeat away from the presidency. Jonathan my old producer came up to be in london this morning and said if last week and the last debate was the fight, is tomorrow night the debate about policy . Do you think we can focus on policy tomorrow . Kevin stylistically, you are absolutely correct. There is a growing consensus, and the polls indicate this, that the president really took a hit in terms of his strategy he utilized last week in ohio. So i would argue that you could not get two more stylistically different politicians in Vice President pence. I also want to note the incredible pressure that senator harris and vp pence have now because both of them are also playing a political marathon game, and they could have political careers that extend their the top of respective tickets. They some the polls, the president has not enjoyed a bump that other World Leaders have gotten out of contracting covid19. I am taking of u. K. Prime minister boris johnson, or brazilian president jair bolsonaro, who also received an increase in the polls. There needs to be a shift. The republicans havent gotten one. You are starting to see polls tighten in the down ballot races as well, and that gets to addressing the policy implications of what happens in what jp morgan and other analysts are saying could actually be a short election week in november as the polls stand. Jonathan wheres the leadership coming from . The president has tested positive for covid. The Campaign Manager has tested positive. The press secretary has tested positive. The rnc chair has tested positive. , the former new jersey governor, has also tested positive for covid. Who is leading right now . Kevin in addition to two senators on the Judiciary Committee that were on the confirmation process for the Supreme Court justice, judge amy coney barrett. In terms of who is leading, the president is leading. Based upon conversations ive had in the last 24 hours with sources at the white house, as well as on the president s reelection campaign, they are taking their cues from President Trump i also want to note the economic angle because it is something we havent touched on. Speaker pelosi, secretary mnuchin going to continue their negotiations. They are inching closer to a deal, 2. 2 trillion for the democrats, one point 6 trillion democrats,cans 1. 6 trillion for republicans. This is something replicants hoped would shift. Now you have battleground states like wisconsin, and it is all anyone is talking about. Lisa i am so trying to digest what you said, that they are inching close to some sort of deal on fiscal support. They have been inching closer for the past two months. Frankly, for the past three months. Are we anywhere closer to actually doing something, or are they just talking about talking about talks a little more regularly now . Kevin i put that question two sources back in washington, d. C. , and they are looking at the perimeters of the debate that is framed. I was struck with the president was at walter reed over the weekend. He had a conversation with Senate Majority leader Mitch Mcconnell on specifically the fiscal stimulus. A lot of the folks back in washington, d. C. Interpreting that as a step of this is a president who needs a win, and he is looking anywhere he can to get one. Theres a lot of incentive from the executive branch to deliver on stimulus. Jonathan jonathan they are talking about talking about possibly talking about fiscal package. Kevin, thank you. I think kevin mentioned it earlier this morning, 1. 6 trillion for the administration, two point 2 trillion for democrats. Then Senate Republicans had a skinny bill in the last couple of months of about 600 billion. It is the person we are not hearing from at the moment in quite the same way as we have been hearing from secretary mnuchin and speaker pelosi. How much have we heard from Senate Majority leader Mitch Mcconnell on this very issue . Not much at all. Tom as we grilled Deutsche Bank yesterday, their calculation is near doubledigit unemployment away from the improving statistic. If it is an unemployed america, what are we waiting for . You hear that from everyone. The most conservative economists i know are talking of stimulus. Jonathan you know the politics of this, the. Election four weeks away. U. S. The ministration when the deadline is the administration when the deadline is. There is no deadline. The base case for people like and rillettes a trades of Veda Partners is that we just are people like Henrietta Treyz of Veda Partners is that we just keep doing this until the election because no one wants to walk away. That number of 1. 5 trillion, that is where the administration has been for the last three months. We have known that. Tom has the president tweeted today . Weve got everything but the 47 tweets we got yesterday. I am kidding as well. One of them was about space force, one of the programs that the president dearly loves. We are going to do spacex. This is another important launch scheduled for spacex, the falcon a. E rocket at 39 the moon port Apollo Program at Kennedy Space center. This is star link, the linkage of the internet up in space, particularly for people that dont have the internet. We are out about one minute and 50. And counting. Lisa this is an incrediblevide, this will allow much faster n who are at home looking for activities. Tom theres a serious internet the 92 launches, and the idea of part of the rocket coming back to earth in 53 landings, to me, the most important thing here is the diameter, launching a satellite. It is only 12 feet wide. It is a small rocket compared to saturn, which was almost three times bigger. Jonathan can we just hit on what lisa mentioned, tom, which is were markable . The amount of technology that goes into Something Like this, which is incredibly impressive, and yet it is to help gamers. Lisa i mean, look, i am being a little bit flip. It is to have a faster internet connection, but gamers have been particularly excited because this has been a really important aspect of having instant conductivity. It is a big business, jon. Tom i would also suggest they are just trying to get Internet Access out to all. That is the lofty goal here. Lisa that sounds much nicer. [laughter] tom thank you. Lisa good job. Nailed it. Tom i nailed it, thank you. Jonathan i expected lisas comment from tom and toms comment from lisa. I am not sure what is going on this morning. Lisa upside down, jon. Tom the temperature at Kennedy Space center, 78 degrees, which is always important for those who remember the difficulties of a winter spaceflight. We dont have that worry here today at all. Looking at spacex and the excitement of the technology has so much improved from what we remember with mercury and gemini, and of course, with apollo, and then on to skylab and the rest. Remarkable improvement here as well. Let us watch for the moment. 6, five, 4, 3, two, 1, 0. Ignition, lift off. [rocket engines] t plus 40 seconds, successfully launching from Kennedy Space center. Tom still something remarkable to see over the atlantic ocean. This is spacex moving forward, and of course, there will be a sequence here of boosters and rockets. We will have to look for that with all of the new technology as well. I believe we may be seeing a challenging moment here. We want to look forward here. We are getting reports on this now from spacexs. Lets continue with this video right now. Away. L see the burst is always a, it risk here in a multistage, and with the Technology Come in to see the first booster pull away will be interesting. That, your first thoughts, please. Matt so far, it looks routine. Theyve got it pretty nailed down. As you said, gamers definitely really interested. That is something elon musk pushed out a couple of days ago on twitter. Theres this story of broadband from space, that you have this really long latency, and that is the death knell for gamers. You need super low latency. What they are promising that is quite unique and different about star link, as well as being very fast, it is going to have low latency. They have been doing a private beta test over the last few months, and some of the speeds have been a bit lower than people thought, around the 100 megabits a second, but the latency has been low, which is kind of the equivalent of having a fiber connection on the ground. Promising s been the earlystage has been promising. They will go to a public beta test soon in the north of the u. S. And canada. Lisa is this really emblematic of how private Sector Companies have taken the lead when it comes to broadening the Cyber Infrastructure . Do you think there is going to be any push for more public involvement, given the fact that this is increasingly a utility and they must have in the era of remote education . Matt i guess what you see in the u. S. And most European Countries is that they are looking to the private sector. Historically you would expect the Public Sector to play a role in that. To some degree, you kind of get funding coming to these companies from the Public Sector, but with strings attached. Andink that for star link spacex, they are doing this as part of a three like it strategy with the nasa messages Nasa Missions to get to the space station, a longer mission about getting to mars, and star link somewhere in the middle. Hopefully, if this is a commercial success, it will fund the mars mission, too. It is this new model we are seeing across the globe of the Public Sector looking to the build some of to these universal access obligations jonathan we should do this more often obligations. Jonathan we should do this more often. We will keep you up to speed on this launch. We do turnaround in the equity market. We are unchanged on the s p 500. We were negative briefly. Eurodollart, 1. 1719. Fed speak still to call for still to come for chairman powell. We will hear from the ecb chief economist philip lane. In the bond market, yields come at a single basis point, 0. 770 on the 10 year. Quite a turnaround over the past couple of days. Tom granted, it is out of a very quiet space. You are quiet on 0. 77 . Where was the upper bound of your range on the 10 year yield . Jonathan the range since april has been 5290 basis points. 50 to 90 points. After the rotation, that was where the 10 year topped out. 39. 87. T texas, right now on the pandemic and the extraordinary news flow that we see, with Johns HopkinsBloomberg School of Public Health, their senior fellow joins us. Here on the news flow, but i would like to put it in a professional context. The president said he may be immune. I know he is speaking as a patient. He and i are uninformed compared to professionals like yourself. What does immunity mean in a virus . What immunity refers to is the ability to fend off further attacks, whatever pathogen you are talking about. Usually with an infectious disease, after you have been infected, there is a period of time where you have developed antibodies where you are impervious to further infection with that same pathogen. The president will likely be immune for some time after he recovers. That immunity will last may be several months to a year, and it may not be completely that it protects him for reinfection, but protects him from getting severe disease. In general, we are seeing that trend follow with this coronavirus. As President Trump and his entire circle battle the virus, we are seeing a similar trend around the country, and frankly around the world. The virus is spreading faster now. How bad is it . Are we had a Tipping Point for something substantially significant, more than perhaps officials have been expecting for a second wave . Dr. Adalja i thick it is going to get worse before it gets better with this virus. Theres a weather change going on in the northern hemisphere, where people are going to be doing more activity indoors, and we know the virus spreads more efficiently outdoors than indoors. Theres also a lot of complacency because it has been 10 months since the virus was discovered, and people are getting more with their habits. I do think we are going to continue to see more hotspots flareup. We are hearing about hospitals in wisconsin under stress. I think this is the new normal. In generallly failed at controlling this pandemic, so it is going to be something we are going to be contending with for several months in the future. Jonathan i would love your thoughts on localized restrictions. In new york city, it is about nine zip codes that are going to have local restrictions. How effective our local restrictions when, if you are an individual, you can still leave that area and go somewhere else and do what you need to do. Verydalja it is challenging for local restrictions within a city to be enforceable or something that people are going to obey because what you could end up doing is paradoxically, suppose you shut down all nonessential businesses , everyone is going to go to the next zip code over and now you have more people infected, tracking that virus into another area that hadnt been affected, so you have to be very careful about this. In general, we want targeted and precision guided Public Health, but you have to look in the long term and realize what the negative or unintended consequences might be. What needs to happen in those zip codes is we need to get more testing, much more Public Health involvement in trying to convince the people that a change in the behavior that they need to change their behavior. Tom you were on the ncaa covid committee. Your Carnegie Mellon is not playing football. Down the hill, pittsburgh will play Boston College this weekend. Who is right . Dr. Adalja i think that what has happened is the division i schools have the validity to do have the ability to do some modicum of testing which they think will counterbalance the chance of infection. Schools like Carnegie Mellon where football is not as important, i never even went to a Carnegie Mellon football game, i think it is probably a wise choice because it is not something that is really important for them. For pitt, it is kind of in the lifeblood, so they are trying to find ways to mitigate it. Vs lee you cant get the rate down to zero. They have to be prepared to put people in isolation. All you can do is try to give people the best tools to reduce the risk, reduce the harm, but many of these division i schools are going to go forward anyways with the antigen test as one way to minimize risk, but it is not going to be zero, and it is going to be a disrupted football season this year. At least we are not having fans so far in the stadiums. That has not created the mass gathering effect, although that may be changing in the next couple of days as well. Tom thank you so much. Out mr. Bloomberg is the founder of bloomberg lp, and of course the philanthropy to his Johns Hopkins university. Red and green on the screen, and i would say a little bit of growing green as we monitor spacex after a falcon nine launch. Jonathan futures up two points. Im not sure if there is a correlation there. Tom ill find it. Lisa nailed it. Jonathan thank you, lisa. Im trying. [laughter] im drinking now in the afternoons. Tom are you . Thats good news. Jonathan the chairman of the fed this afternoon. Hes talking a little bit later. I am sure they will have a quick mention of spacex. Tom im sure they will. Seriously, the inflation vector on both sides of the atlantic really different with this inflation indicating fiveyear fiveyear breakevens. Jonathan inflation indications in europe get your expectations. I think that is going to be front and center, and the conversation around the European Central bank really highlighting that this morning. Lets get to the price action. Lisa look at those markets. Jonathan im going to make it to thursday. [laughter] lisa Something Like that. Jonathan the president back in the white house. From london and new york, the tension on d. C. Futures up. This is bloomberg. Ritika with the first word news, im ritika gupta. President trump says theres no reason to fear the coronavirus that has killed more than 210,000 americans. The president has been released from the hospital, where he was treated for the virus. Doctors say he may not be entirely out of the woods yet. President trump and tends to be ready to debate joe biden next week, despite just being released from the hospital. That is according to trump s spokesperson. Its as they will not agree to the moderated being able to mute the target. Indoors through the air. That imposes new challenges on schools and businesses trying to reopen safely. The virus can be spread through particles that linger in the air and can affect people separated by distances that had been considered safe. The Supreme Court has reinstated the republican backed requirement for witnesses sign ing every absentee ballot in south carolina. The ruling will not affect absentee ballots that have already been cast. You will have to excuse to excuse not singing for hollywood after production had to be curtailed during the pandemic. Global news 24 hours a day, on air and on bloomberg quicktake, powered by more than 2700 journalists and analysts in more than 120 countries. This is bloomberg. Mr. Biden anybody who contracts the virus by saying that masks dont matter, social distance doesnt matter, i think is responsible for what happens to them. Jonathan president ial candidate and former Vice President joe biden weighing in four weeks away from the election. From london and new york this morning, good morning. Alongside tom keene and lisa abramowicz, im jonathan ferro. Getting you in shape for the price action today, when hour and about 42 minutes from the opening bell. Equity futures just about turning positive in the last 30 minutes or so. Up two points on the s p 500, positive not even 0. 1 . Eurodollar approaching a 1. 18 handle, up about 0. 1 . You will hear from lagarde and chairman powell a little bit later today. In the bond market, 0. 7 8 on the u. S. 10 year yield, a big move higher in yesterdays session. Plenty of reasons for it. Dont overlook the Economic Data in the United States. Impressive quite relative to some disappointment in europe. That changed the narrative of just a few months ago. Tom in the last hour, this is a sprightly tape. Mentioned, the u. S. 10 20. 7818 10 820 0. 7818 . It,than i just keep saying dont discount the Economic Data. There are questions about the momentum in the economy. That ism print yesterday was pretty decent. Tom 28 days to the election, and some of the nuances are getting pushed aside by the brute force of politics. That,l waltz understands a republican from florida, the sixth Congressional District in the south of jacksonville. He is the congressman of daytona beach. Thank you for rejoining us. It was good to see you the other day. Your guy has to win florida. Your district is 12 , 13 hispanic. How does he get the hispanic vote . How does he get the increasing cuban vote in miami . Rep. Waltz i should tell you, he is doing very well with the cuban vote and the venezuelan vote for one simple reason. The word socialism doesnt ring too well with that part of the hispanic vote. These are people who have suffered personally, who have lost family members were still have family members suffering in cuba, in venezuela under the maduro regime and the remnants of the castro regime. The move by the Progressive Left to advocate socialist policies is really driving this forward. Stated your case. Do you see any indication that mr. Biden of delaware has decided to support the far left of the liberals on that matter, or is he running more centrist . Rep. Waltz i think hes been all over the place, to be honest with you. At some point he was for the green new deal. It is on his website. Then in the debate, he says it is not his plan. His Vice President has certainly pounded the table for medicare for all. He brought the Progressive Left into his working groups for health care is not a solution. Look at the problems with the which runs from the government, and is still not serving our veterans. That is just an example of where the left wants to go, and i think that will dominate bidens policy. Tom i am sure you want a debate in miami just for bragging points for florida and all of that. The governor doubt once a debate in miami as well. How do we do a debate in miami that fits the realities of one candidates healthy and the other one rather ill . Rep. Waltz well, the typical course of the virus in poor and teen be done by that debate in another 10 days. The president is looking much better, and i think at that that point,p at they will stay apart and stay distanced as well. Very few people are going to be allowed into the room. I think that debate is important for people to hear, and important for our earlier point on democratic socialism. To have that in miami in the midst of people whose relatives, family members, and even themselves have suffered, there is a huge refugee population of venezuelans that has been brutalized by the maduro regime and venezuela, and i think that debate needs to be had, and it is a great place to have it. Jonathan i think we can anticipate one of the questions that will be asked next week. I would love to hear what your response to this would be. If someone posed the question if the president cant keep the white house say from covid19, how does he protect the country, what is the answer to that . Rep. Waltz i think the president has kept the white house safe for extra ordinary amount of time. I have personally been in and out a number of times, on and off of air force one. At the end of the day, no one said that this virus would never spread. The goal was to flatten the curve, to get a Hospital System itt could by time to handle and not become completely overwhelmed while we marched towards therapeutics and a vaccine. Those were our goals, which we on. To keep an eye meanwhile, i do think biden needs to be held accountable for not wanting be shut down from china, not wanting to shut down from europe, for calling those policies xenophobic, and for himself and his advisors earlier on, not advocating for some of the stronger policies that the president put in place. Lisa congressman rep. Waltz theres a lot of spin going on here in terms of what he would have done had he been president. That is what is going to come out. Lisa do you think President Trump has handled the virus and his cabinet for himself well, given the fact that he is currently displaying himself not wearing a mask and going for what some people have called a joyride in front of his supporters with secret service in the same car . Rep. Waltz look, there is a big difference when you have the luxury of just being a candidate versus when you have to govern and when you have to lead, and you have to lead the defense department, the state department, and other critical departments. You have to be out there. You have to find ways to walk and chew gum. I think that has been the president s message all along. We cannot go to 100 shut down. It is just not a responsible policy. We were talking about veterans a moment ago. We are seeing a 20 to 30 spike in veteran suicides just in the last year because of the getting puthat are in place by mandatory shutdowns. I think the president s message is we have to find ways to safely do both. , and ito govern and lead think that is what hes been trying to do. Jonathan congressman, fantastic to have you on the program today. Hope we can have you back soon. Congressman Michael Waltz joining us on the latest. From new york and london, good morning to you all. 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