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Good morning, everyone. Lets get things started with five things to know for this tuesday, september 5th. And we start with exclusive, new cnn reporting this hour, Special Counsel jack smith is not done investigating efforts to overturn the 2020 election. Now, hes got his sights set on a connection between fundraising and the push to breach voter equipment. Also this morning, First Lady Jill Biden Testing Positive for covid19. Shes doing all right. She is fighting mild symptoms, were told. Shes at home in delaware. The president has tested negative so far. This, of course, is ahead of his trip to the g20. Also this morning, new signs that an alliance between russia and north korea is strengthening. Kim jongun expected to meet with Vladimir Putin in russia to further the Arms Negotiations. Urgent message from the mother of the escaped mother in pennsylvania. There have been four separate sightings of the fugitive. Max exodus from the desert in nevada. Thousands of people finally made it out of burning man after days stuck in the money, literally. Cnn this morning starts right now. Happy tuesday, everyone. Hope you had a restful labor day. And if you worked, thank you for that. Exclusive new reporting this hour that shows the widening scope of the federal probe into attempts to overturn the 2020 election, even though former President Trump was charged a month ago with four criminal accounts. The Special Counsel leading that probe, jack smith, is still digging. Thats according to multiple sources familiar with the investigation. And it raises the possibility that others could still face legal peril. So jack smith is following the money. Sources tell us smiths team of prosecutors has asked two recent witnesses about how money that was raised off baseless claims of voter fraud was spent to fund attempts to breach Voting Systems in several key states that joe biden won. So we know prosecutors have focussed their questions on the role specifically of former trump lawyer Sidney Powell, who entered the public consciousness with unsubstantiated claims, like this one. We have mathematical evidence in a number of states of massive quantities of trump votes being trashed, just simply put in the trash, like you would on your computer with any file. And biden votes being injected. Poppy noted, unsubstantiate and outright lie. Powell was indicted in the Georgia Election subversion case. Cnn obtained invoices that show powells nonprofit defending the republic hired forensic firms that accessed Voting Equipment in four swing states, georgia, pennsylvania, michigan and arizona. In georgia that access looked like this. The Coffee County gop Chair Standing by as others inspect the county Election Office the day after the attack on the capitol. Well bring in Zachary Cohen who helped break this story. Theres a ton in here. I think thats important to note the full context of things. But lay out what the Special Counsel has been investigating since the indictment. Yeah, good morning, guys. Jack smith is doing exactly what he said he was going to do about a month ago when he indicted former President Trump. Hes still digging. Sources are telling me and paula reed, he is focussing on a few key areas is following the number and looking into Sidney Powell. She raised a lot of money, were not sure how much, but it was a lot. A lot of money based on these lies that the election was stolen. She then said that this defending the Republic Group was something that could help fund the legal challenge that she and other Trump Lawyers were putting forward in key swing states trying to dispute the outcome there. Jack smith has been asking at least two witnesses about Sidney Powell and whether she was able to back up these claims of election fraud. They wanted to know how the money from defending the republic went to fund these efforts to find any evidence of voter fraud or widespread fraud which they did not. Sidney powell, as you mentioned, these invoices do connect defending the republic directly to these breaches we have seen investigated at a state level but not really from a federal level. Jack smith does seem to still be investigating those two elements of this. Its really interesting reporting from you and paula. This is really focussed on people outside of former President Trumps act. But how does it all connect to the former president . Yeah, poppy. Jack smith made clear in his indictment that donald trump sits atop a vast conspiracy to overturn the election. And Sidney Powell, unindicted conspirator. Sidney powell has legal jeopardy here. Prosecutors asking questions. Remains to be seen whether or not she will its worth noting that in georgia the charges that she faces there are all tied to a Voting System breach in Coffee County in south georgia. They have come up in some of these witness interviews that have been connected by jack smiths team cently as well as some breaches in michigan and pennsylvania. Zach, thats something i wanted to follow up on. You, our colleagues and sara murray broken a ton of elements on the breaches in Coffee County. How does this tie together . What else have you learned . Three years past january 6th and still learning about how different people played significant roles in this effort to overturn the election. And i learned just recently that another witness came forward in april, sat down with the Special Counsels office and said, look, his former boss, a wealthy gop donor in pennsylvania by the name of Bill Backenberg fund a multistate effort in pennsylvania, michigan and arizona and georgia. People coming forward and really fake elector, so people have been coming forward and reporting thins they think the feds need to investigate. Remains to be seen how that might play into a federal investigation or potentially criminal charges down the line. Zachary cohen, thanks again for the reporting. New overnight, First Lady Jill Biden tested positive for covid and is experiencing mild symptoms according to the first ladys office. Were told President Biden tested negative and is still planning to go to india to the g20. Arlette saenz is live for us. The first Ladies Health and very busy and consequential week for the president. Reporter a busy week for First Lady Jill Biden. She was set to begin teaching at the Community College here near washington, d. C. , just this week. But now she will remain at their home in rehoboth beach, delaware, after receiving that Positive Covid test on monday evening. Now she spent the weekend there with her husband after they had traveled down to florida to survey the damage after hurricane idalia. And the white house says that after the first lady received that positive diagnosis, the president went ahead and tested and he tested negative. Now White House Press secretary Karine Jeanpierre says the president will continue to maintain a regular testing cadence throughout the week and monitor for symptoms. But there are questions about what this will mean for the 80yearold president and his incredibly hectic schedule. If you look at what hes planning for this week, a bit later today, she is set to host a Medal Of Honor Ceremony at the white house on thursday. On monday, hell over the weekend he will also travel on to vietnam. The white house will be closely monitoring how the president is doing in the wake of his wife First Lady Jill Biden receiving that Positive Covid diagnosis. Now this is the second time the first lady has tested positive for covid. Her husband had tested positive last summer in july. She tested positive in august. Both of them had undergone paxlovid and then experienced a rebound case. Were waiting to hear whether they might go down that route and use the paxlovid treatment. For the time being, she remains in rehoboth beach, delaware and the president will continue to test throughout the week as he has that busy events on his schedule. Arlette saenz for us at the white house, thank you very much. Coming up for us, u. S. Officials say kim jongun is planning to meet with Vladimir Putin in russia. This is a big deal. Theyre going to talk about supplying weapons in the war against ukraine. And the senate is coming back to work today with several major issues looming over capitol hill, including a potential Government Shutdown and concerns over Senate Minority leader Mitch Mcconnells health. Well break down a huge month ahead. Stay with us. 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Officials quite frequently over the last week or so. But this is significant news that they think its actually getting to a leader level engagement. A leaderlevel potential decision with Nsc Spokesperson Adrian Watson tells us its kim jongun who is expecting to meet with President Putin to engage with President Putin in russia. Now, as you said, we dont know the exact timing of this actual, potential engagement. The New York Times is saying it could happen as soon as this month in the far east in a area in russia where kim jongun travelled in the past, by train. But the backdrop here is that north korea has sold Infinity Weapons to russia throughout the course of this war dating back to last year. And what the u. S. Is looking for now is the potential for a new Arms Agreement between the two countries with the Nsc Spokesperson top official john kirby saying last week that the expectation is that this would include a significant amount of ammunition from north korea to russia to be used in multiple different types of Weapon Systems that russia has and also the possibility of Raw Materials for russias defense sector. We know thats a key area as well just because of how many sanctions are on russia right now as a result of their invasion of ukraine. We have seen a flurry of activity between the two countries in recent months with the Russian Defense minister visiting north korea in july. A followup meeting by additional russian officials to north korea. And we also know, according to nsc that kim jongun and putin talked about deepening the relationship between the two countries. Poppy. So many steps leading up to what appears to be this meeting in a matter of weeks. Thanks very much. Lets bring in New York Times white house and National Security correspondent david sanger. David, i want to start with white house officials have been warning about the possibility of this, have been signaling this was a potential likelihood over the course of several months. Obviously as poppy and kylie just laid out, the progression that we have seen on a bilateral basis between russia and north korea. Why now, though, in terms of actually moving forward on these weapon sales and deliveries . Well, phil, its really fascinating question. And i think the answer is that the russians are probably running low on ammunition, just as ukraine did. Youll remember that when the United States needed to find Artillery Shells for ukraine, it got them from south korea. And thats because the Korean Peninsula has basically armed up with the kind of artillery on both sides that the russians need, that the ukrainians need. So i think from the russian perspective, theres a little bit of youre going to go to the south. Well go to the north. But theres Something Else thats going on here as well. While i think the russians have a fair bit o gain, as kylie described, not only weapons but Raw Materials, the north koreans have a huge amount to gain, phil. What can they get from this . They can get oil, something thats hard to come by for north korea. They can get help on their icbms which have been impressively tested over the past few months, including some that can probably reach the United States. Obviously an area that russia knows a lot about. And finally, phil, they get legitimacy. Theres a super power that actually needs them. David, youve termed this the access of the aggrieved pointing to north korea, iran, russia and china. That begs the question of is this a onetime meeting to serve a onetime purpose . Or is this the beginning of something that should be much more concerning to the west. Oh, i think its concerning. This access of the aggrieved is something that we have really seen come up as a reaction to the United States, nato, the rest of the west, rallying behind ukraine. Weve seen china, russia, iran and north korea forge a new relationship. That Brick Meeting that took place the other day was an effort by china to begin to have a counterweight to a u. S. And Western Consensus laid group. So were seeing the world come together more in blocks than we really have at any time in the post cold war period, poppy. Its really a remarkable reshaping. And it may be the biggest geopolitical result of the ukraine war. Wow. David, one of my questions when is this reporting came out yesterday, when the white house basically declassified intelligence and released this, is this follows what has been a fascinating and very kind of on their front foot strategy the white house has pursued since before russia invaded in terms of declassification and release of intelligence in advance trying to kind of utilize that either to postpone or hold off actions or to kind of galvanize allies. Whats the rational here. I understand you declassify to try to keep china from making a move. I understand you declassify from keeping russia to make a move or convince your western allies theyre about to. North korea i dont think cares if theres Public Perception of wrong doing or going against what they had publicly said beforehand. Why this . You know, i think that the best you can say for it, phil, is that it puts a spotlight on them that makes it hard for others around who deal with north korea, russia, china to continue trading with them and so forth. But lets face it. This has been a remarkable strategy, as you have said, that has only worked sporadically. Nay revealed russias war plans. Russia invaded any way. They revealed that iran was getting ready to ship drones to russia, theyve continued to ship drones. Its really only with china, which has the most to lose with their own Trade Relationships that theyve had some success in getting them to restrain what it is that theyre shipping. And thats why putin is going to the north koreans because he cant get this stuff from the chinese. Thats a great point. David sanger, appreciate it as always, my friend. Thank you. Thanks, david. What officials in Pi Pennsylvania are now trying to do to convince an escaped convicted murder to turn himself in. 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That message is urging Danelo Cavalcante to surrender. Police hoping they can bring him in peacefully. Overnight, Law Enforcement officers fanned out in search of escaped convicted murdered Danelo Cavalcante. Blocking off roadways and scouring neighborhoods and thick woods within a twomile raid yois of the prison he escaped near last thursday in pennsylvania. Theres every reason to believe he remains in this area. Reporter as the search stretches into its sixth day, police broadcasting a message from the fugitives mother across the search area. As desperate as he is, maybe he has a change of thought. Here is his mother telling him to surrender, his family cares about him. Hes desperate, hungry, dirty, in the woods. Reporter cavalcante has been spotted four times since his ecape most recently on sunday. A trooper observed him in some distance. Gave chase but was unable because of the terrain and other on city cams was unable to get to him before he disappeared. Oh my god this guy is down there. Reporter the fugitive was in his home on friday night. I woke up my wife. Hey, i think there may be somebody down stair. You know, get on the phone. Reporter drummond says he saw cavalcante Leave Walking back Into The Woods after taking food. Peaches, apples, green snapped peas. Reporter Residential Surveillance Camera picked him up at 1 43 carrying a Backpack Police think he may have stolen. Hell make mistakes. Hell show himself. Hes already shown himself, we believe, a few times. Well contain him and eventually catch him. Reporter cavalcante was sentenced to Life In Prison Without Parol for the 2021 murder of his former girlfriend. He is desperate. He does not want to be caught. He has very little to lose at this point. Reporter and poppy, i just want to emphasize the terrain around this prison quite diverse. A lot of wooded areas, creeks and corn fields. That is really what has made this search so challenging for police. Law enforcement Officials Say there are just a lot of places to hide. Poppy . To hear them say that one of the Law Enforcement officials, danny, saw him on foot and just couldnt get to him because of the terrain just speaks to the difficulty because theyre trained for this stuff. Please keep us posted. Thanks very much. Well, at any moment decision could come down on whether to move forearmer mark meadows subversion case out of Fulton County and into Federal Court. Well discuss the likelihood of that happening. Thats next. Stay with us. Zyrtec works hard at hour one and twice as hard when you take it again the next day. So betty can be the. Barcode beat conductor. Lets be more than our allergies and for fast, allergy relief with a powerful decongesnt, try zyrtecd. At pnc bank, you can finus in big cities and small towns across the us, Whe Our Focus is to always support the people who live and work there. Because you call these communities home, and we do too. Pnc bank. 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The republican senator has frozen twice in front of reporters this summer, raising questions about his age, his health and his ability to effectively lead. Cnn capitol Hill Reporter Melanie Zanona joins us now. Its been fascinating to follow the Republican Leadership response and the fact that hes going to talk to them but talked to a number of them on the phone about this over the recess. Reporter right. Theres a lot going on this month. Recess is other. Reality is starting to set in. Top of mind right now, of course, is the health surrounding gop leader Mitch Mcconnell. He is going to deliver his Weekly Press Conference tomorrow. Hes going to deliver his floor remarks later today. So his performance of course will be heavily scrutinized. And then hes also going to be facing his own members for the first time. They have their weekly party lunches. There could also be a special Conference Meeting to specifically talk about his leadership and his health. And members still have a lot of questions about what is really going on and whether he is up to the job of leading them. This is going to be just a critical moment for Mitch Mcconnell to tamp down speculation about both his health and his political future. But, politics aside, theres also a ton of legislative business. Congress is racing to avoid a shut down at the end of this month. And they are nowhere near close to completing their work on their annual spending bill. A short term spending patch is going to be needed. But even that is proving to be complicated, guys. One of the chief sticking points right now is whether a supplemental funding package that involves disaster aid and ukraine money is going to be attached. Its going to be a huge showdown between House Conserves and Senate Democrats and house republicans. One that the legislative history im not going to take you down the rabbit hole as much as you and i would like to but its on a Firefighter Pay increase. There has been a push forward for firefighters. Whats the latest on that . I know you have new reporting. Reporter yeah. This is one of the Critical Issues that is at stake in the funding fight. The bipartisan Infrastructure Law included a temporary pay raise up to 50 for wild land pay raises. That is set to expire at the end of this month. If congress were to let that lapse, it would be devastating. You could see mass resignations in the height of wild fire season. That is not something anybody wants to see. Now i am told that speaker Kevin Mccarthy committed to extending this in a shortterm funding bill if they can get that passed. But it is less clear whether or not theyre going to do a permanent longterm solution. Even though theres bipartisan support and Kevin Mccarthy is no stranger to the effects of wild fires, california, of course, is home to many wild fires. This is an issue that has run into political head winds because of conservative hardliners and their demands to cut back spending. Its another issue to watch. Buckle up. What a month ahead. Melanie, thanks for the reporting. This morning, were also closely watching for a major ruling out of georgia. At any moment a Federal District judge could rule on mark meadows request to move out of Fulton County and into Federal Court. Both meadows and Da Fani Willis gave the judge the additional briefs he asked for last week. Now were waiting to see how the judge ruled. Before now, meadows is set to be arraigned in Court Tomorrow along with any of the other defendants who havent waived their right to an arraignment. Donald trump waived his and submitted a not guilty plea in writing. Lets bring in former Senior Investigative counsel for the january 6th committee, deputy Chief Of Staff Adam Kinzinger and former director of the new York Democratic state party. Remind people whats at stake here in this meadows of the georgia case specifically. Why were waiting for what will happen next. So theres the criminal statute that allows individual charge with state crimes if that person is a federal officer and charged for a crime that was conducted under color of law, they did the thing theyre charged with because they were a federal employee, they can go to court and say i want to remove that case to Federal Court for basically a neutral jury, a neutral forum. You can think way back when more old time days, folks are really concerned that states wouldnt be physical therapy to the federal government. So mark meadows is saying, i want my case out of georgia court. Doesnt make it a federal case. Hell have the same prosecutors. Hell have the same criminal exposure, but it does put it before a different jury that will be likely more conservative than a Fulton County jury. It will be in the Federal Court, which is not where fani willis and her team are used to practicing. Why its very important is that once it gets into Federal Court, one of the reasons why it would be in Federal Court is because he is whats a Called A Colorable Federal Defense which means theres some basis for him to have a defense in federal law against the state law charges. Thats super important. Once he gets to Federal Court, the court as acknowledged he has at least a potential federal defense. Now when hes there he will assert that defense, which he already has. If hes successful that means those charges are fully dismissed. That becomes more important because former President Trump is watching. Other federal employees like Jeffrey Clark are going to be keeping an eye on that. If thats successful, fani willis could have a whole swath of her cases removed and dismissed in Federal Court. It is a close call. The judge asked for supplemental briefing which for lawyers if a judge asks for you to brief an issue more, that means the judge thinks its not clear. Hes basically say i need your help. Dig deeper into case law. Find me support so i know which way to go. Everyone right now has whats effectively a coin toss here to see whether this case is going to move or stay in state court and proceed as expected. Big picture here for the former president is that if meadows is successful, this could mean that trump would be successful moving there and potentially getting it dismissed too. This could put her whole probe in peril, no . It potentially could. The difference, though, that the former president has from mark meadows, he has far more charges. Youre going to be looking at each act and each charge to see whether it falls turned gambit of the statute. The former president is in a different situation. If you remember, mark meadows said i made a phone call here and thats my job. I set up a meeting. I was just being Chief Of Staff. It will be tougher for the former president to look at all the conduct hes charged with and saying i was faithfully executing the laws of the United States because as many folks will know, the federal government doesnt have a role in conducting Georgia State elections. Right . The state has that role. The state has that role. So i think hell have a tough he being former President Trump, saying i wasnt acting as Candidate Trump but as President Trump when i called the Secretary Of State and said find me 11 whatever vote. He wasnt calling and saying follow federal law. Im calling as the head of the executive branch. He was really calling as Candidate Trump to say i want you all to do x, y, z. So i think President Trump has a far, far more Uphill Battle here which is incredibly more challenging to be successful. Following the money, Sidney Powell, the lawyer, and the outside group that was aligned with her, the january 6th committee, where you worked, did a lot of work on this front as well, where do you think this heads from a federal perspective . Theres a lot they can uncover here that the january 6th Committee Also did and we presented, laid out in the hearings through the summer. So theyll probably follow those through that process. I would also you think you gave a road map . Absolutely. On this specific issue. I think we did. We can discuss that, too. I think they did. I think one thing i point out about some of the things that were uncovered in the hearings is that there were some things we talked about with mark meadows, that werent necessarily handed over to us. Ill be interested to see what jack smith can uncover as we see how this plays out. There were certainly things that we were able to present to the American People and i think in a sequential manner. But im interested to see what jack smith turns out. No. As im listening to both of you and thinking about all the work that was done, what an incredible narrative laid out for the American People, right . And so when i think about what might happen to mark meadows and then what trump is looking at as you said, the concern that i have is will the American People, particularly the voters in florida, feel as accountability has been that theres accountability here. Do will they feel that he going to Federal Court, whether its meadows, and or trump, if they feel that hear again the ring leaders of all that we witnessed on january 6th are not being held accountable and by the way, the folks who say, well, i did what i was told are the ones that are going to be punished and effectively let the ring leaders, if you will, off the hook. I do get concerned about that because what that does is it sort of tamps down enthusiasm for all the work that you did but also for the votes that any potential democrat can get going into 2024. Despite all of this, biden, the democrat here at the table, biden is tied with trump and the new Wall Street Journal polling and biden is really not doing well on the economy, 58 of folks say its gotten worse under him. And age. 73 of voters say hes too old to seek a second term, only 47 of voters think the same of trump. How do you fight those two things . Couple things. First of all, i understand to some extent if even if the numbers are better, people dont feel as though its better. If youre a millennial, you have high mortgage costs, you feel the your rent is too high. I understand. I honestly understand the concern. Think about what the Biden Harris Team was elected to do. It was elected to run the bureaucracy, engage in Good Governance and bring the country back to normalcy. They have done that. Can i ask you, perception is reality. Perception is everything. If you were running the show, youre a democratic strategist, what would you change so people feel whats happening . So those Young Democratic voters feel it and vote that way . Hes done a couple things. Meaning he talked about student loan forgiveness, right . The young voters really are attracted to that policy issue. Continue to talk about Climate Change and continue to talk about the economy itself. As we looked ed over the last cycles, the number of swing states and swing state voters have decreased. We dont talk about ohio and florida as swing states anymore. If were talking about a smaller number of states, that economic message will hit home. On the other stuff, particularly what was created after or during the january 6th hearings, i think is really built in with democrats and republicans. They are where they are. And unlikely unmovable. Persuadable does get persuaded by an economic message. 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This one against the Antidefamation League over their reporting on his platform x, formerly known as twitter. In a post yesterday, musk claimed the adl was driving advertisers away. Saying since the acquisition that the adl has been trying to, quote, kill this platform by falsely accusing me and the platform. Looks like we have no choice but to file a Defamation Lawsuit against adl. The adl in may published a Report Finding antisemitic content on musks platform after he reinstated several accounts with the history posting hate. Spokesperson for the adl told axe axios on pending matters. They released a statement saying, quote, adl is unsurprised yet undeterred that antisemites, white supremacists, other trolls launched a coordinated attack on our organization. This type of thing is nothing new. Such insidious efforts dont daunt us. Instead they drive us to be unflinching in other commitment to fight hate in all of its forms and ensure the safety of jewish communities and other marginalized groups. Joinings us now, Senior Media Reporter for axios, sara fisher. I think there was a followup tweet from elon musk where he says to be clear, im not antisemitic, but hes also pro free speech. That line in between there, that gray area is at the heart of this issue right now. What are the ramifications given the way this has continued to evolve. Yeah, phil. For elon musk this has big ramifications. Thats because twitter is still very heavily reliant on advertising from big brands. Fortune 500 companies. Those are the types of companies that reputationally cannot afford to take the risk if a Third Party Group like the Defamation League is saying aligning their ads against content on this platform could be potentially antisemitic, meta and youtube faced threats from Antidefamation League and other civil groups around hate speech and policing it. The difference, phil, those platforms are so heavily reliant on ads from small and medium size businesses that arent going to be called out. So they havent had big impacts on their businesses when there were boycotts and threats. Elon musk and twitter, this is a Serious Business problem. The vast majority of twitters revenue comes from those big brands that cant afford to ignore messages like this from the adl. Musk tweeted that their ad revenue is down 60 and directly tied that to this adl report but the new ceo of x in that interview with cnbc about a month ago basically said theyre doing great. She also said theyre pretty close to break even. Which is it . Well, theyre a privately owned company so they dont have to publicly disclose anymore, poppy. If you look at what financial analysts are saying for the past few months, fidelity marked up the value of twitter. Granted its way down from when elon musk bought it for 44 billion. But they were doing okay. However i think a series of unforced efforts calling out the adl will make it hard for analysts to continue to project twitter is moving in a positive direction when elon musk says ad revenue is down 60 . Thats ast ronomicalastronomica. I want to switch topics. You have new reporting. Democrats outside the reelection effort will be pleased to hear because they have been wondering, when is this heavy blitz of spending, when are they going to start going on air in a major, significant way. What are they doing here . Yeah. So the Biden Campaign is going to run a brand new ad this thursday during nfl Season Opener between the Detroit Lions and the kansas city chiefs. And a Campaign Source tells me this ad which will be heavily focussed on the economy is going to be bolstered by seven figures worth of spend over the next few months. This is part of a broader 25 Million Campaign from the Biden Administration mostly touting his economic achievements. But its notable, phil, because at this time the Republican Party is sort of battling it out with each other. Youll notice that tim scott and nikki haley, chris christie, most of their spend is targeting donald trump. Not those Biden Administration where the state of the economy. Of course, Donald Trumps spend is mostly targeting his indictments. And so the Biden Campaign is going to sort of blitz the air ways, taking advantage of this unique opportunity while its competitors in the gop are fighting with each other. Sara, thank you. Thank you. Good to see you. 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