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And fellow professional player travis and their iconic face off in the super bowl or the Kelce Bowl Last year. After jason kelces announcement, the Pro Football Hall Of Fame posted quote now that Philadelphia Eagles star Center Jason Kelce has announced his retirement the year 2029 is worth noting. 2029, of course, that would be the year that jason kelce becomes eligible to enter the professional football hall of fame. Mr. Kelce as a philadelphian and an eagles fan, and an attendee at the 2018 super bowl. All i can say its thank you so much we are getting ready to kick off a big day here on cnn live coverage of Super Tuesday starts at 06 00 p. M. Eastern tomorrow. You can watch it on cnn and streaming on max, the news continues on cnn and i will see if our Election Coverage happening now, Breaking News, colorados top election official response to the us Supreme Courts historic ruling, keeping donald trump on the ballot in her state and others Secretary Of State, Gender Griswold is joining us live. Also tonight. We huge stakes of the 2024 election are on vivid display this week. As trump aims to sweep Super Tuesday contests tomorrow, and President Biden prepares for his critical state of the Union Address thursday, while also facing dismal new poll numbers. And theres more Breaking News. Vice president Kamala Harris just wrapped up talks with a top political rival of israeli Prime Minister benjamin, a tiny escalating the Biden Administrations push for an immediate six week ceasefire in gaza were getting a readout of the media. Welcome to our viewers here in the United States and around the world im wolf blitzer. Youre in the Situation Room the ski is cnn, Breaking News the colorado Secretary Of State is standing by to discuss the consequences of the us Supreme Courts unanimous rejection of her states efforts to remove donald trump from the president ial ballot speak with her in just a moment. But first, lets get a breakdown of the line Landmark High Court decision from cnn, chief Legal Affairs correspondent, Paula Reid Former President Trump today claims the Supreme Court has unified the country by securing his place on the 2024 ballot. You voters can take the person out of the race very quickly. But a court shouldnt be doing that and the Supreme Court, so that very well. And i really do believe that well, be a unifying factor in a unanimous opinion monday, the court ruled that colorado could not remove trump from the ballot under the constitutions ban on insurrectionists serving in Office States may disqualify persons holding or attempting to hold state office, but states have no power under the constitution to enforce Section Three with respect to federal offices, especially the presidency, the justices warned that allowing states to each make different decisions about Ballot Eligibility would result in a patchwork creating chaos around elections the victory for trump was expected after february Oral Arguments where justices from both sides of the aisle appeared skeptical of colorados case. I think that the question that you have to confront is why a single state should decide and who gets to be president of the United States. And the chief justice, unlikely that congress will do anything before november. And in less than two months, the court will hear arguments on another major trump case that could impact the outcome of the election. There the question is if trump has immunity that could protect him from criminal charges related to his efforts lets to subvert the 2020 election. Now will most legal experts do not think trump will win on the merits. But the fact that court has even taken the case could help them delay it until after the president ial contest. We shall see a huge, huge decision coming up on that front as well. Paula reid at the Supreme Court. Thank you very much joining us now, the colorado Secretary Of State jenna griswold, madam secretary. Thanks so much for joining us. The High Court Says states dont have the power to remove federal candidates from the ballot. Whats your reaction to this historic decision today . Well, thank you for having me on first and foremost, im glad that they issued a decision colorado voters and American Voters all across the country deserve to know whether donald trump is qualified or not as we go into Super Tuesday but in terms of the bigger decision, im disappointed. We believe that its up to colorado or any state to determine whether to disqualify oathbreaking insurrectionists from our ballots. Ultimately, the United States Supreme Court disagreed. Votes were donald trump will count and he is on our ballot. The court didnt address the sensitive issue whether trump has actually an insurrectionist. Are you disappointed by that and what worries you most about this decision . I wouldnt say i was surprised. They didnt address it but it is the big elephant in the rub only two courts have looked at the question of whether trump engaged in insurrection, and they both determined that he did and i think one of the concerns from this decision is that without congressional action, oathbreaking Insurrectionists Running For Federal Office will not be able to be stopped from appearing on ballots although congress could act, its highly unlikely with such congress that we have that just doesnt function very well as you heard, the madam secretary, even the three liberal justices agreed that trump cant be removed from the ballot given that did the colorado Supreme Court, from your perspective . Go too far i dont think the colorado Supreme Court went too far. I think theyre different opinions. Thats why we have a judicial system as to whether Section Three of the 14th Amendment is selfexecuting, whether states can apply that provision of the constitution to protect our ballots from oathbreaking insurrectionists i also think that the big concern is still there. Donald trump incited the insurrection. He incited that violent mob onto the capitol to try to stop the peaceful transfer of president ial power. And he has not stopped his attack acts on democracy since then its clear you disagree strongly with the supreme Court Decision as a legal matter. But madam secretary, is it better for the country that if if trump goes ahead and loses the election, its a result of the voters making their choice at the ballot box as an elected official, as colorado Secretary Of State, its my job to uphold the law in the constitution. If there is a provision in the constitution that would bar someone like trump from appearing on the ballot . Its my job to enforce that. When theres Big Questions while it goes into litigation and weve seen that play out exactly how it did. Trump is a qualified candidate. The United States Supreme Court has decided states do not have the authority to remove him and ultimately will it will be up to the American People to save our democracy in november at their Voting Centers. Insurrection he incited that violent mob onto the capitol to try to stop the peaceful transfer of president ial power. And he has not stopped his attacks on democracy since then. So its clear you disagree strongly with the supreme Court Decision as a legal matter, but madame secretary, is it better for the country that if if trump goes ahead and loses the election, its a result of the voters making their choice at the ballot box as an elected official, as colorado Secretary Of State, its my job to uphold the law in the constitution if there is a provision in the constitution that would bar someone like trump from appearing on the ballot . Its my job to enforce that. When theres Big Questions while it goes into litigation and weve seen that play out exactly how it did. Trump is a qualified candidate. The United States Supreme Court has decided states do not have the authority to remove him and ultimately will it will be up to the eric and people to save our democracy in november at their Voting Centers trusting the Supreme Court according to various polls, is near record lows right now, will todays decision lower the courts standing with the public, even more so. Do you have less faith yourself in the court . My opinion on the court does not immediately matter to this case in hand. I am disappointed. But as Secretary Of State, ill uphold the United States Supreme Courts decision donald trump, i believe, is a danger to american democracy. We already see maga, extremists trying to undermine confidence in 2024 trump himself is facing 91 Felony Counts in four separate cases. The American People from the very beginning have all the power in the world to safeguard our country. I was never waiting on the Supreme Court to do that because that will be the American Voters job this fall, we shall see what happens. The colorado Secretary Of State, jenna griswold. Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you. Lets get some reaction right now from our legal and political experts and laura coates, ill start with you how significant is todays decision . Oh, its a huge decision wolf. The idea that even waiting for over a month, of course, very interesting as well. But this tells you that they have foreclosed in some respect and only a former president being able to be found im getting this way, but also any official thats not explicitly laid out in Section Three of the 14th Amendment. Its consequential. Could they told the states essentially, although your job is to oversee elections, to stay in your lane, if its a state issue, its all yours. But for federal office, you cannot. And thats pretty significant here. What did you think of what we just heard . From the colorado Secretary Of State, her reaction while i think its obvious she wanted a different conclusion, her job as an official obviously has to carry out the law as its written, but the notion that theyre taking away the states ability to decide who can be on their own ballots is a huge step. The Supreme Court and why . Because they believe that its inappropriate for one state eight to decide how the rest of essentially the union will be able to operate. But their role is hold on. If im in charge of my own State Elections than why would i not be in that best position here for my own voters . This is a way i think them to have the offramp that she was even herself because of being happening. And here it is, the offramp and the Supreme Court got off at that exit. What did you think norm eisen from what we just heard from the colorado Secretary Of State, well, wealth, their legal issues that reasonable minds can disagree about. I think secretary griswold position that the evidence strongly supported donald trump engaged in insurrection and the Fair Assessment that that is a threat to the devil im a critic. Norms of the system. I think here though you cant underestimate the political win for donald trump a nine, nothing unanimous. Supreme Court Decision is just something we saw him do it this afternoon. You could just take out and sell on the Campaign Trail As, as validation. Now, i know this wasnt the thorniest or trickiest of all the legal issues he faces and that he had a pretty strong case here to take before the Supreme Court. But that is still sort of a feather in his cap. Now to, as hes trying to do away with all of these legal challenges to get a nine nothing supreme Court Decision on one that keeps do on the ballot is no small thing. Yeah, thats a good important point. Laura based on what we saw today with todays supreme Court Decision, how if at all do you think that potentially could affect the other major supreme Court Decision thats coming in the weeks ahead, whether or not the president , the former president in this particular case he has president ial immunity. In other words, he cant be charged with a crime. Well, there was this idea that the Supreme Court might split the baby. They might say in the colorado case. Okay. Youre on the ballot, which again, be careful what you wish for, because if your whole schtick is that im capped off on political martyr. Now that youre back on, if you should lose, you cant really blame the Supreme Court although likely someone will, then the other part of it is hold on a second. Youve got this Immunity Case here. Well, that seems to be a much stronger argument in favor of took about a month to actually have a decision if you have an oral argument, april on april 22, if its a month from then you have an actual decision. Well, there might in fact be some time on the clock before the election to have some meaningful argument or a trial. And to davids point about putting the wind in Donald Trumps sales before for Super Tuesday clearly theyre focused on the political calendar and the right of every american to be informed. Well, if you apply that same logic, how much more so super majority of americans wants to know did donald trump abuse the powers that hes seeking two regain, they want a jury verdict on that. So perhaps thats a sign that theyll meet that schedule. So the january 6 trial can take place. Well see what, if any, Impact Todays supreme Court Decision has on the voting tomorrow, the republican primaries in all these states coming up Super Tuesday coming up, well have much more. 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The Vice President , Kamala Harris, just wrapped up a meeting with a top political rival of the israeli Prime Minister benjamin. Its on, you. The war cabinet member benny gantz here in washington right now for high level well talk despite the tiny house opposition, cnns Jeremy Diamond is covering the story from telaviv. Cnns mj lee is over at the white house. Shes getting new information. First to you, mj, what can you tell us about this meeting and the message it sends . Well, wolf, the meetings certainly underscores the Biden Administrations growing urgency when it it comes to this conflict. We are told by the white house that the Vice President made clear a couple of things to benny gantz in this meeting that just wrapped up. Were told that she made clear how deeply concerning the humanitarian crisis in gaza is right now, including bringing up that tragic situation last week were dozens of Palestinian Civilians these were killed just trying to get their hands on humanitarian aid. Uh, were also told that she talked about the importance of getting to a Ceasefire Deal where hostages can come out. This is something of course that us officials have been working on for weeks and weeks and were also told that she made clear that israel simply needs to do more and trying to provide more humanitarian assistance. The backdrop here, of course, is that the us, as we saw over the weekend, began Making Airdrops of humanitarian aid, including food, so that the people there could have more assistance as theyre going through. This really horrific situation of not being having access to basic Life Necessities these, you know, its important to note for context wolf that benny gantz is visit was not without controversy in israel Prime Minister netanyahu making clear his displeasure that his political rival is getting this kind of audience with senior us officials. The white house has defended those meetings, basically saying, look, hes a member of the war cabinet in israel when hes visiting washington and asking time, were going to give it so that we can have the opportunity to discuss a lot of these important wartime issues. Jeremy, youre there until aviv, youre getting more information how much has this visit irritated the israeli Prime Minister . Well, theres no question that is rankled not only the israeli Prime Minister, but also many of his allies in government who viewed this visit by benny gantz has somewhat of a breach of protocol, but of course its important to keep in mind that gantz is effectively netanyahus chief political rival, even as they are both in this kind of uneasy marriage of Police Political convenience within the war cabinet and Israeli Government officials saying that gantzs not officially representing israel along the during this visit, the israeli ambassador in washington was instructed not to facilitate this visit, a sign of the disapproval of this visit, but of course, all of this spotlights the possibility, the alternative that gone through represents not only here in israel, but also in the United States, where us officials have been growing increasingly frustrated with the current israeli Prime Minister. And this is certainly an opportunity for them to get a look at what israels next Prime Minister, which he would be if elections were held today, might look like very, very important. Jeremy diamond in tel aviv, mj lee at the white house important developments were following all of this. Theres more Breaking News. Were following right now, a United Nations team finding what it calls clear and convincing a direct quote, clear and convincing information that israeli hostages in gaza gaza were sexually abused and that there are reasonable grounds to believe the Sexual Violence is ongoing. That report also finding evidence that rape and gang rape occurred during the october 7 hamas Terror Attacks in israel. Were watching this story as well just ahead, well have more of Donald Trumps reaction to a Supreme Court win today and how hes using it to push his next big case before the high court. 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He said that he was praising the Supreme Court, that they did a really good job, but that he almost immediately pivoted to the immunity claims. So this has been really important to the former president. He has become fixated on these claims of immunity and the fact that the Supreme Court has decided to take up those arguments. The one thing to keep in mind when were talking about this ballot case is that donald trump . And his team believed they were going to win. They watched the Oral Arguments. They thought their team did really well they actually believed that this case was the case they had the most legal evidence to prove. And so after the win, of course, donald trump taking a victory lap, as you said, but then moving onto immunity. Now the big thing about her beauty is that while his team doesnt necessarily believe that this is a winning argument we do believe that it is fundamentally delaying the trials, the federal trials, and that is a win for them both and all of this sort of plays into new reporting. You also have about the Trump Campaigns finances. Tell us about that yeah. Alayna treene and i are colleague reported out this story about how the Trump Campaign has been raining in their expenditures as they prepare for a general election. Now, this included scaling back those largescale rallies either much smaller, looking for cheaper venue, Cheaper Hotels even included different staffers called colleagues, susie wiles, a miser, and making sure that everyone was aware that they were taking the cheapest modes of transportation because they were really concerned that the head as of the campaign, were looking at their line items, at worried about it just goes to show you down, down, down that they were watching this money being spent. The other part of this that we learned was that they had mismatched cheap furniture in all of the various Day Locations are part of this is because they didnt want a repeat of what happened in 2020 when they essentially burned through hundreds of millions of dollars. In that Case Campaign and then they had a cash crunch, right before the november election. But the other part of this is that while his campaign has taken a lot of pride in the fact that there are a leaner operations. Some of this might be a necessity as they try to figure out how theyre going to pay that half 1 billion in legal fines. And that doesnt even include Donald Trumps mounting legal fees meeting those lawyer bills Kristen Holmes in west palm beach, florida for us. Thank you very much. Donald trump has having a good week with us Supreme Court win today behind him, and a potential sweep of republican contests on Super Tuesday tomorrow. All this as President Biden is facing a huge test when he delivers his state of the Union Address on thursday amid a slew of new polls now showing the current President Trailing Trump by various degrees as theyre expected, rematch is getting closer to becoming official. David chalian is back with us along with cnn political commentators van jones and s e cupp and david, lets start with you. Ill bet of sin is all of this for the Biden Campaign . Well, its not where a president would want to be heading into the heat of his reelection campaign. That being said, you just showed a slew of polls trump in a couple of them is outside the margin of error and trump argued the president is not an to of the United States that would have been a headscratcher to me if the Supreme Court nine justices agreed on that, this is one where reasonable minds can disagree and the other thing is they did not accept Donald Trumps invitation. He said, please say in his papers, please say im not an insurrectionist nine nothing. They declined to take him up on that request, discuss that at all of the supreme Court Decision. And if you read it fascinating, 20 pages, ive gone through a single singlespace, david, what do you think of the Secretary Of State of colorado is saying that trumps still represents a threat to democracy here in the United States. Well, listen, shes referring to a candidate who has said he intends to use the Justice Department if hes elected and serves as president again, to go after his political enemies. I think that is a Fair Assessment that that is a threat to the democratic norms of the system. I think here though cant underestimate the political win for donald trump. A nine, nothing unanimous. Supreme Court Decision is just something we saw him do it this afternoon. You could just take out and sell on the Campaign Trail As as validation. Now, i know this wasnt the thorniest or trickiest of all the legal issues he faces and that he had pretty strong case here to take before the Supreme Court. But that is still sort of a feather in his cap now to, as hes trying to do away with all of these legal challenges to get a nine nothing supreme Court Decision on one that keeps you on the ballot is no small thing. Yeah. Lets important point. Laura based on what we saw today with todays supreme Court Decision, how if at all do you think that potentially could affect the other major supreme Court Decision thats coming in the weeks ahead, whether or not the president , the former president in this particular case, has president ial immunity. In other words, he cant be charged with a crime. Well, there was this idea that the Supreme Court my where to split the baby. They might say in the colorado case. Okay. Youre on the ballot, which again, be careful what you wish for it because if your whole schtick is that im capped off on a political martyr. Now that youre back on, if you should lose, you cant really blame the Supreme Court, although likely someone will then the other part of it is hold on a second. Youve got this Immunity Case here. Well, that tends to be a much stronger argument in favor of not allowing a president to be immune, which would be the other side of the coin for the Supreme Court, not having a win for donald trump. Now, if they are inclined to make as a political calculation, that would be outwardly surprising. But theres a legal argument as to why he would not have immunity as opposed to one strong and the other direction . Section either way, if the timing holds, it took about a month to actually have a decision. If you have an oral argument, april on april 22, if its a month from then you have an actual decision well, there might in fact be some time on the clock before the election to have some meaningful argument or a trial. And to davids point now, putting the wind in Donald Trumps sales before Super Tuesday clearly, theyre focused on the political calendar and the right of every american to be informed. Well, if you apply that same logic, how much more so, super majority of americans wants to know . Did donald trump abuse the powers that hes seeking to regain grew that biden that the Democratic Party tends to do a little bit better than we expect almost every time, given how bad bidens numbers are. So the red wave turned out to be a little red trickle. We did a little bit better these offyear weird year allegedly been doing a little bit better. Were doing better then biden. But how is biden going to do better than biden . Thats the thing that is hard for me to understand. They think that will listen. Democrats keep doing better. The only hope is that the economy continues to heal. Abortion stays a strong issue and people start paying more attention to what it would really mean for trump to get in there but in the meantime, this is the hard sledding season for biden and you want to see him come out strong. This weekend and take this issue on. Lets see how he doesnt mj. Can you hear me . Its wolf. Hey, well, if i can excellent. Exactly. Jeremy, you ready for tv . Yeah. Jeremy, can you hear me . Its wolf i will fire you. Yeah. Thanks for staying up late of course, always thanks, robin were following more Breaking News right now. The Vice President , Kamala Harris, just wrapped up a meeting with a top political rival of the israeli Prime Minister benjamin at time you, the war cabinet member benny gantz here in washington right now for high level talks, despite the tiny house opposition. Cnns Jeremy Diamond is covering the story from telaviv. Cnns mj lee is over at the white house. Shes getting new information. First to you, mj, what can you tell us about this meeting and the message it sends . Well, wolf, the meetings certainly underscores the Biden Administration chin discuss Yo Called Bunny Hundred 8149977. Im dr. Sanjay gupta. And this is cnn lets get back to the Breaking News right now. The highstakes meeting today between Vice President Kamala Harris and an israeli war cabinet member whos a top rival of Prime Minister benjamin netanyahu. That meeting just wrapped up a little while ago and joining me now the top democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, congressman jim himes of connecticut, congressman. Thanks so much for joining us. What message does it send for the white house to host benny gantz today . Thats something they havent granted. And time you since his reelection well, wolf, i think its its i hope two things are going on. Number one, it sends a signal that the United States stands with israel and that we have not forgotten the horror that was visited on israel on october 7 and the necessity, the righteousness, acidy to make sure that hamas is not an operative the force ever again, it also, and i imagined that Behind Closed Doors this message was delivered is essential. That the conflict in gaza, the israeli attacks in gaza, happen in a different way than they have these many months. In a way that is much more consistent with the kind of humanitarian improvement we would like to see and gaza. And in which hamas is the target and in which there is much less damage done, fatalities, casualties amongst the civilian population. Because i know congressman, youve joined most of the democrats in criticizing the tiny farright policies. But given the very sensitive talks over a potential ceasefire, fire and hostage deal, could it actually backfire on the white house to anger and atten, you well i dont know about angering netanyahu. What the United States is doing here. And i think the Vice President was very clear in her statements in pointing at hamas as the barrier but this point to a cessation of hostilities to allow for the humanitarian situation to be addressed, to allow for the release of hostages and the United States needs to continue to play a role in saying to the israeli leadership, regardless of who it is. And of course, benny gantz is in the war cabinet that, that we must together undertake the attacks in gaza in a, in a different way than they have been. The way they have been undertaken from a humanitarian standpoint is just not tenable Going Forward as you know, wealthy israeli leadership Prime Minister netanyahu, most notable amongst them, it has not been open to that message. And its really going to be critical, not just for the moral reasons, but for ultimately the ability. And we all hope the disability comes sooner rather than later, but to migrate this catastrophic situation to something that is is ultimately about the peace and security and the safety of the israeli people and of legitimate end state for the palestinian people, which of course is a twostate solution so my hope is that the conversation in the white house is about taking the steps to get us closer to that. What seems like today, very different its in solution because as you know, the Vice President Kamala Harris is speaking out a lot more forcefully and publicly about the humanitarian catastrophe in gaza right now. And the white houses frustration with israel clearly is growing. I want you to listen and watch this. Listen to this people in gaza are starving conditions are an issue. Made. There must be an immediate ceasefire were last at least the. Next six weeks. She added, should President Biden himself, congressman, be speaking out like this . Well obviously i think we all believe that the Vice President is echoing a message that that is consistent with the president , consistent with the administration, consistent with a lot of members of congress. And i have to say this a lot to my constituents, wolf, which is that two things can be true at the same time. Number one, that what happened on tobar seventh, what was perpetrated by hamas was inexcusable, was barbaric and was monstrous, and that hamas must cease to be a player in the region. And on the global stage, it is also true that 30,000 dead gazans is not a tenable situation that a humanitarian crisis in which gaza theyre not getting enough nutrition, not getting the medicine. That is also untenable. So again sadly in this conflict, people have a tendency to take sides. We have to remember that the life of an israeli and the life of a gazan are morally equivalent and that we shouldnt take sides. And yes, we need to prosecute the war were against hamas, but we need to do it in a way that is different, frankly, from the way we have seen the war undertaken in these last several months gardens. But jim himes, thank you so much for joining us. Thank you, wolf well have much more news just ahead this is pickleball is basically ten is for babies before adults, it should be called wiffle tennis yeah probably on them like a pr we got nothing to worry about with etrade for Morgan Stanley were ready for whatever gets served up do you get to work on your chest on id rather work on saving for retirement or College Since wed like to get schooled, has pretty good burn, right . God game thanks for coming to our clinic. First ones free. This is a night. Singles doesnt care, but she reads bug taps only shameless is proven over 90 effective. 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Will Kristen Holmes in west palm beach, florida for us. Thank you very much. Donald trump is having a good week with us Supreme Court win today behind him, and a potential sweep of Republican Caucus contests on Super Tuesday tomorrow. All this as President Biden is facing a huge test when he delivers his state of the Union Address on thursday amid a slew of new polls. Now showing the current President Trailing Trump by various degrees as theyre expected, rematch is getting closer to becoming official David Chalian is back with us along with cnn political commentators van jones and s e cupp and david, lets start with you. Ill bet. Of sin is all of this for the Biden Campaign . Well, its not where a president would want to be heading into the heat of his reelection campaign. That being said, you just showed a slew of polls. Trump in a couple of them is outside the margin of error with a slight lead. In others, its within the margin of error. No clear leader. The average is 48 to trump 46 for biden. Heres the difference. Four years ago, we here at cnn did 12th polls matching up biden and trump throughout the entire 19. 20 election season, donald trump was never numerically ahead of joe biden. Thats not the case now. So joe biden enters with low Approval Ratings, historically, low Approval Ratings and he is doing so in a weaker position than no doubt his campaign would want to be at that point i just think were now getting to the season of a fully engaged campaign battle, yet still plenty of months ago before the actual election. So well see what happens. But Van Man Jones is with us the New York Times poll showed this nearly threequarters of voters, van 73 say biden is too old they say hes too old to be an effective candidate, including actually a majority of democrats just 42 say that of trump. Should this be a major Flashing Red Light for the Biden Campaign . It should be and it is. Unfortunately, he cant get any younger. So its not that much that they can do about it he has a chance this week though to remind people that sometimes having a good grandpa on the case is better than having a bad grandpa and the case. And thats really what hes got to lean into it. Hes got to own it. He is an older guy but hes an older guy who is a good guy, is a good man. Hes done well for the country and hes got a track record to run on. But anybody who says its not a real issue or its just something that the media is making up. Thats not true se cupp the writer evan osnos has a new article in the New Yorker Magazine in which he speaks to President Biden and others, he writes this about President Bidens polling struggles. Write now, and im quoting from the article, a series of senior aides told me that they doubt biden is trailing trump as much as some polls have suggested polling is broken. One of them said is the Biden White House se, in some sort of denial right now yeah. 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Well, it was twice that in the 2020 election among female voters, biden is tied with trump in this New York Times poll this weekend, he had a 15 point advantage. You see . If black voters, he was hes got a 40 threepoint advantage that substantial except in the 2020 election, it was a 75 point advantage. And then if you look at nonwhite voters without a college degree, you see hes got a six point advantage over trump, but that was a 46 point advantage in 2020. So clearly they have a todo list here. Theres no doubt to try and bring some of these key pieces of the coalition back into the fold at the robust levels that they were four years ago. Im sure when they read these New York Times sienna poll numbers yesterday in the New York Times, there was a lot of depression over there, but probably little surprise. Yeah. Good point. All right, guys. Thank you. Very, very much. Just ahead the top democrat on the House Intelligence Committee will join me in the Situation Room. Well be righ t now, joining me now, the top democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, congressman jim himes of connecticut, congressman. Thanks so much for joining us. What message does it send for the white house to host benny gantz today . Thats something they havent granted the time you since his reelection well, wolf, i think its its i hope two things are going on. Number one, it sends