Monday, may 6 right now on cnn republican hopefuls gathered to make their case to become Donald Trumps vp pick. And thousands displaced and a young boy killed as texas struggles to recover from the devastating flooding all right. 6 00 a. M. Here in washington alive. Look at the white house on this monday morning. Good morning, everyone. Happy monday. Im kasie hunt. Its wonderful to have you with us scandalous affairs, secret payments, accusations of gestapo tactics, and we still have six months to go before america is 47th, president is elected welcome to the new normal donald trump, of course, returns to court this morning for week four of his criminal hush, money trial. Week three ended with gripping testimony from former trump aide, hope hicks. She offered potentially damaging details about the Hush Money Payments that were made by trump to adult films star Stormy Daniels trump refrained from commenting on his former employees testimony so im not allowed to comment on any of that. As you know, im under a gag which is very unprecedented. Look at him being respectful of that the former president then held a fundraiser at maralago over the weekend. He told republican donors the President Biden is running a quote, Gestapo Administration and quote, while falsely claiming that the white house is behind all of his criminal prosecutions this is of course not the first time that trump has used Nazi Rhetoric and the campaign and the biden team wasted little time in responding. They said, quote trump is once again making despicable and insulting comments about the holocaust. While in the same breath attacking law enforcement, celebrating Political Violence and threatening our democracy all right, our panels here, former federal prosecutor elliot williams, michigan congresswoman Debbie Dingell, and matt gorman, who is former Senior Adviser to tim scotts president ial Campaign Welcome all. Thank you for being here congresswoman. Let me start with you on these comments from trump, where he called, it, said that the Vitamin Striation was using gestapo tactics. We were just talking about how high emotions are running in other areas of our country. But this kind of language, its not the first time donald trump has used it. What, what are the ramifications of trump talking like this . Well, this is how donald trump talks about many things and i think its just contributing to a whole culture right now of the kind of way were treating each other. A culture of pate, a cultural pettiness against each other. And im very concerned about what is happening in our communities and people being pitted against each other. And i do believe that former President Trump fans the flames of it. Elliot williams, when you use a phrase like gestapo tactics, lets just be clear about what were really talking about. Yeah. Well, whats really interesting is that across america, look, go through these newspapers that are sitting here right now, antisemitism is on the rise in the country. There are documented acts hi, and if not, if not actual physical violence harm against jews when you use terms like gestapo tactics, even casually calling back to the holocaust i think number one, ill probably bring back very painful memories for many people and their families, but also to using the kind of rhetoric that the congresswoman talked about here that really billy has very little place even as metaphor in a civil society. Its just, its just, theres just no place for it. But again, were yesterday on the internet on twitter i think idiot and liar. Were trending terms, right . And i just think its indicative of the point that she was making, which is that words words matter and one ought not use terms like to stop full stop. Yeah. Matt gorman, as the republican at the table. I mean, how do you see danger in what donald trump is doing here . I mean, i think stepping back for a minute, i think it was interesting. Weve talked about this quite a bit. I think in many respects x in the back of your mind, youve got to remember that there is a money deficit among his campaign and democrats, so i think some of this word uses somewhat intentional, whether its for small dollar donors or like you saw in the room to try and think like normal, like when you say smalldollar donors were talking about people you sent emails to exactly what theyre going to go for talking about the gestapo. I think i think you have to remember that what animates these folks is that pat sort of language like that very us against them language and whether theyre high dollar donors in the room or low dollar donors, theres, there is a somewhat of in his mind a purpose behind this sort of thing. Nothing. Its important to keep in mind. You cant discount the fact that the republicans, they have money gap to make up and i wouldnt be surprised if that some of the reason why so matt, i have to play for you what youre a former boss, tim scott had to say Kristen Welker interviewed him on meet the press over the weekend. Watch this lets. Set or will you commit to accepting the Election Results of 2024 . Bottom line at the end of the day the 47th PresidentUnited States movie first it donalds shop. And im excited to get back to low inflation, low unemployment senator, yes or no . Yes or no will you accept the Election Results of 22 . 24 no matter who wins that is my statement so could not answer yes or no question. And i raise this in the context of what we were just talking about because the president himself has raised the specter of Political Violence. The former president of Political Violence, if he doesnt win and says that the election is unfair what, is tim scott doing their and do you see any danger in that i think a couple of things i think what youre seeing, whether its tim scott, its its stepping back what youre seeing kind of a the sunday shows now is in real time, folks, whether its doug burgum, tim scott, or others, really play out in live time a some sort of an audition too. I think be the vp and youre able to kinda compare the answers in real time. Its kind of unprecedented and look, i will also said hes given the answer that he thinks donald trump he thinks donald trump wants to hear that he wont accept the results of the 2024. Look, i dont know about that, but what i think is what was surprising to me kinda being on the road for the last year with him was in many respects, that is where the party is at. That is in were many of the grassroots republicans are at large part. And so im not surprised, i dont in any way, think that its calling for Political Violence. But i also think in fairness though two, hes not going to, hes going to hes going to stick to what he wanted to say and wasnt going to be swayed either went by christies that might be where certain primary voters are, but that is a staggering display of cowardice from the sitting senator that he cant say. I will support the next president of the United States or, well, well accept the pardon me, will accept the results of the next election. Its just remarkable that maybe we can analogize this to the disk weve taught this course point we were making earlier that weve sunk so low as a nation that we cant have a major party and folks who might be the next Vice President , look at a camera and say, i will result the lag. I will accept the results of a free and Fair Election heres reality. My friends, the strength of our democracy is that you sleep, you have confidence that the elections are held fair. Its clearly, you believe in the outcome. We are now moving closer to what we see in other governments were democracies of toppled, where you have dictators when people say i wont, if i, if i dont win, were going to overthrow the government i mean, its not, im not saying that kim scott saying that, but he wont is to say that hell accept the results of the election january 6 was a precursor to what we really could be seen in this next election. And it should scare all of us. People need to have confidence in their democracy, in their electoral process. And that what comes out on election day well be honest and will be accepted by all the people. Now the only other point id make is that its not just the Good Behavior of the viktor that is important to a sound democracy. Its the losing parties respect of the system that is actually the first act of a new administration or whatever else it might be. And the fact that theres this drumbeat from these folks who are auditioning to be Vice President , not willing to say if we lose, we will accept the fact that we lost. Its very troubling to me, but and its also Leadership Matters in terms of what people believe what the rank and file of any Political Party on either side . Leadership really, really matters. So what were seeing or not seeing from these people is incredibly important. All right, our panel today is coming up next the speaker of the house, bracing for a challenge to his speakership plus for keeping a close eye on the forecast after deadly flooding in texas forced thousands of people from their homes and dozens killed by devastating flooding in brazil. This is one of five things you have to see this morning. 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Are you going to vote to save johnson . Im going to found my leader Hakeem Jeffries sees indicated what we will probably do i look i can approach this two ways. I could enjoy the fact that the republicans, once again, show how disorganized or that they it would rather do this kind of ridiculousness and bills like Laundry Liberty Act instead of getting an faa bill and every culture of bill passed. But i really think that country wants us in congress to get some work done. I will work with most republicans, any republican to get some a partisan legislation done that this Country Needs and marjorie is just making a first of the House Of Representatives again. So heres what Hakeem Jeffries had to say about why hes leading democrats to do this and our view what traditionally be let the other side work its own mess out but when that mess starts to impact the ability to do the job on behalf of the American People in a responsible thing at that moment might be for us to make clear that we will not allow the extremist that though the congress in the country into chaos so matt gorman does he get credit for that not particularly, but you know, you know look, i think the real danger for for mike johnson is in november is not now you know, i dont think any republican really wants the job right now at this point. But i think come november, that is when you could di when were all going to be choosing a new senate leader, would probably therell be i would assume i wouldnt be surprised to someone challenging johnson, regardless of what the outcome is in the house. I think that is where the dangerous for johnson not right now at this moment. Who do you think challenges . I think that depends. I think it depends. A how we do in the president ial election, whether the republicans keep the house are not. I mean, certain i thought it was notable. You had johnson emmer scalise, the Leadership Team at the top three, although in the same way in the ukraine and israel bill, at least to photic voted the other way. I thought it was very notable. Interesting. Elliott, i mean, in terms of what Hakeem Jeffries is doing here is really interesting. It does seem to Say Something about the trust that there may be between jeffries and johnson that didnt exist with mccarthy . I think so. And i think its a recognition like in the movie independence day, we have to like randy quaid flying into the space ship at the end. Sometimes you just got to take one for the team and maybe crashing in that space. And thats kinda what theyre doing here. I dont know for folks that dont get the analogy, but i its and that movie is older than i really realy randy quaid sacrifices himself for the good of humanity. And i wonder if thats what mike johnson is doing you know, its really just like if we were england there would have been just a Different Party that would have come together from the center or whatever else and banded together and take him congress its over. America cant do that. So when we have a very divided Congress Like this were just going to end up in this situation where the Majority Party is constantly fighting amongst itself and its almost very tragic that this is where we have been all throughout 20 its 24. Well, thats the argument. Congresswoman, where people will say and correct me if im wrong, but i feel like ive heard you say some version of this that it is actually necessary for us to have two healthy Political Parties that are functioning properly for our democracy to work. I do believe that and i do believe that we all need to be working together i am very worried about how divided we are replaced every community in every different way. And i think that up, believe me, i think theyre people that are trying to cost these kind of divisions. I think two republicans need to get the rules changed. Ive always worked across the eye. Ive always worked with my colleagues in the republican side to do things that are right for this country. And i remind people on a regular basis, united, we stand divided, we fall. All right. Congressman dingell, thank you so much for spending some time with us this morning. I was really appreciate your voice okay. I had here so many hopefuls, only one spot as donald trump remains mom on his running mate plus more than two dozen protesters arrested after clashing with police at the University Of Virginia. This is one of the five things you have to see this morning. 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This is a serious situation thats developing this afternoon. We will likely see this moderate risk go to potentially a higher risk today with some explicit wording from the Storm Prediction Center indicating that multiple long track and intense tornadoes could develop with giant size hail and 80 mile per hour winds or stronger possible with this line of storms that will form this afternoon and evening. And no, this is not necessarily confined just to the daytime hours the potential for nocturnal tornadoes, which we understand to be extremely dangerous. We could see these tornadoes still continue on past sunset this evening, roughly 8 00 p. M. So this isnt hatched area that you see from the Storm Prediction Center honing in on southern kansas to central oklahoma. Thats where we have our greatest risks of ef2 tornadoes because that is 111 mile per hour winds associated with an ef2 minimum and then giant size hail when were talking about this language, i havent seen this in several years from the Storm Prediction Center. They explicitly, explicitly using wording today to help elevate and rampup this particular situation that is unfolding Across The Plains today. So heads up, keep an eye out of the sky. Casey, all right. Indeed, Derek Van Dam for us, derrick, thank you very much. Coming up next, donald trump, using Nazi Rhetoric to attack the Biden Administration plus the vp candidate who trump says candidates who are begging him to be his running mate were here to get your sayyed of the store. A fares library, prostitution. Why do we keep ending up . You cant write this stuff. United states of scandal with jake tapper. Now streaming on macs he there, brenda. Its exactly. So which like are we operating on . You mean arm . Its all connected. 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She finished her testimony after a brief break after court on friday, trump tried to clear up a lie he had told the day before that his gag order prohibited prohibited him from testifying in the trial the ganglion is not to testify. The gag order stuff three from talking about people in responding when they say things about me, we have people saying things about me and im not allowed to respond. So theres judge has taken away my constitutional all right all right. Or panels back. Matt gorman is still here. Were also joined by former Senior Adviser to Hillary Clintons 2016 campaign, karen finney and npr host, are you sure roscoe . Thank you very much for being here matt gorman, let me start with you because hope hicks, of course, this sort of fascinating figure what did she make of how her crying on friday seemed to really be related to something she had said under prosecution questioning, she started to cry under cross, but that it seemed at least related to her giving up trump a little bit to what what they wanted i mean, she is really its kinda hard to overstate how striking a figure she cut during this period of time and the campaign, and how close she was to trump. Shes a unique figure in troubled in many ways. She predated him coming out of the campaigns were for ivanka trump previously and shes someone who has not sold out. Jean write a book. Shes not he doesnt have a Cable Contract Sheet after the white house after all that stuff had happened, shes kind of went back and is kind of working in the private sector now. And she has a lot of kind of inside knowledge, especially those early days on the campaign. So no matter what she was going to say he was going to be a very compelling testimony, very unique than someone say like Michael Cohen. Now that the testimony is very compelling, lets put up what she had to say that this was at the very end of her questioning by prosecutors. So the prosecutors asked, did mr. Trumps say anything else about this issue when he told you that michael made the payment, did he say anything about the timing of the News Reporting regarding oh, hope says he yes, he wanted to know he trump how it was playing. And my thoughts and opinion about this story versus having the story a different kind of story before the campaign had michael not made that payment . And i think mr. Trumps opinion was it was better to be dealing with it now. And that it would have been bad to have that story come out before the election. Can so heres one of the things thats interesting. I hope hicks, she also though, has a lawyer that is not paid by donald trump. So she clearly knew that in order to be free to tell the truth, it would be in her own best interests, rhombus legal interests. You have to imagine shes been watching others who have maybe not had such a great fate when theyve tied their fate directly to trump so i thought that was an interesting point. Its been, ill tell you having been on the other side of it in 2016 its been very interesting to watch because again, the barrage, if we heard the testimony about how david pecker it wasnt jail with during the primary and during the general election, the attacks on hillary, the attacks on any of his opponents you sort of knew it at the time. What was going on, but there was no proof. So to hear this play out in court, at this moment is its troubling actually, because to be honest, i mean, think about those last days of the campaign, and i know weve talked about this quite a bit. If it had come out, it would have impacted the election because we all know that his wife is, the one who saved them after that access Hollywood Tape came out, right . It was very we were all watching to see what is she going to say and when shes a well, its just boys locker room talk then with the Permission Structure that female voters needed, that a lot of people needed, yeah i you its wonderful to have you here the next up potential witnesses we have Michael Cohen weve Stormy Daniels and also potentially karen mcdougal. So were still waiting to see who prosecutors are going to call. I mean, what are you watching for as a Stormy Daniels takes the stand potentially or Michael Cohen, particularly as it relates to whether or not this trial is going to break through with voters i mean, i think that when you have someone like Michael Cohen, i think is obviously a complicated character to say the people i dont, know if he will break through. I think Stormy Daniels like im going i think she could be make a very compelling case. What i would be interested in though, is trumps reaction because i feel like that is what could actually be the thing like, especially with Stormy Daniels, because hes had such horrible things to say about her he clearly gets so worked up when he sees someone especially, lets be real women talking about him in a certain way. You could see him coming out and saying some very nasty things. And i think that at times will remind women voters of the things that are the problems that they we have with donald trump at time, if he does that, he certainly gonna be violating bank gag order he doesnt always follow the rules i dont think about now all right. Lets talk about this too. Because over the weekend, the trump vip stakes really heating up several republicans on his vp shortlist hitting the sunday morning talk shows, South Carolina senator tim scott refusing to say whether hell accept the Election Results if biden wins in november remember, well said, will you commit to accepting the Election Results of 2024 . Bottom line at the end of the day the . 47th PresidentUnited States, over donald trump. And im excited to get back to low inflation, low unemployment. Senator, yes or no . Yes or no will you accept the Election Results of 2024, no matter who wins . That is my statement thats a statement. North north dakota governor doug burgum tried to put a positive spin on trumps legal troubles. Filing error is not something that would affect any American People that are trying to put food on the table and gas in the car. It doesnt affect them. And so this is why the outcome of this trial is not going to change. A lot of peoples minds. It might actually, in some ways help present drunk because it reinforces the idea that the Biden Administration patient is willing to use lawfare to try to attack a political opponent all right, heel is back. What do we think karen well, you know, interesting about this. Weve always heard right . That the most folks, its an ordinance of one when youre talking about donald trump because hes watching so clearly you know, they sort of had there and it was definitely like a shark tank weekend, right. Because they had their time with the donors a little press and the flash, and then you get your tv. Lets see how you do i mean, hes parading all of them and they know what the stakes are. They know what hes looking for, right . He wants a Vice President is clear during tim scott dancer kind of shameful for United States senator who does take an oath to defend the constitution in the United States of america. But p. Shaw not be able to answer a Pretty Simple question. But again, they both knew with him watching the stakes are high, if you want that vp slot. Well, on the reality in terms of what tim scotts doing there is that this has become one of these litmus test questions that every single one of these contenders is being asked and clearly trump is watching what the answers are. Absolutely. And they know. And tim, scott and do that he had to say, well, you know, trumps going to win. He could not say that he will accept anything other than a trump win. I think that also these vp candidates understand that they cant be, they have to be out there, but they cant have too much star power, right . Like trump wants someone who can kind of blend in and and defend him with the full might of, you know, of their abilities. And also who can just sing his praises and whatever he does, they can spin it to the best of their ability. What do you think the criteria or its almost as if trump posted a reality show like in an previously where certain people, forget the Name Practice or something. Yeah, so its very interesting, right . Because again, this shows, theyre not doing it because they want to have with jake and dan, even though we all love to hang out with jacob, we love chicken dinner. But like there is there is i kinda go back to my son for theirs precedent in this where youre changing the channel and youre seeing a lot of times folks answering the same questions different ways. It every sundays kinda new slate of folks you saw again, people are all on stage with him. You have that base of that class photo. So to speak, from saturday, it is a way where youre having this kind of contest, if you will, play out in real time and in front of a live audience, so to speak. Yeah. Its, it isnt really remarkable that situation. Im interested in the doug burgum bubble too, by the way. 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This, as the cia director bill burns plans to remain in doha today, despite previous plans to go to israel, a source it tells cnn that extended stay coming is the latest round of ceasefire and hostage talks of stalled with little sign of a breakthrough joining me now is democratic senator chris of delaware. He serves on the Foreign Senate Foreign Relations Committee and his national cochair for the Bidenharris Campaign senator, good morning. Thanks for being here. Good morning. Great to be on with you senator, lets start with what we are learning overnight here about these leaflets that were dropped causing palestinians to evacuate. It suggests that israel is preparing to make some sort of incursion into rafah. What would be your message . What is the Biden Administrations message to israeli Prime Minister . Minister Benjamin Netanyahu about doing that the message is delivered to Prime Minister netanyahu several times in personal meetings is that he has to observe the rules of war to provide for civilians to relocate to provide for humanitarian aid to get in of course, israel is justified in going after hamas, but they have to do so in a way that allows for the relocation of civilians. So the dropping of these leaflets is yet another example. Hopefully of the idf continuing to follow the rules of war but what i am more optimistic about and also more concerned about Frankly Casey is whether or not this hostage deal will come to fruition its been more than 200 days that families from countries around the world have prayed in, hoped for their loved ones to be released by hamas ive met with rachel and job on a goldbergpolin repeatedly. Their son, hersh was just revealed by hamas to still be alive beneath gaza and as you said in your opening, bill burns, are cia director continues to be in the region trying to close this deal between hamas and israel. A deal that was complicated by hamas directly attacking the Kerem Shalom Gate through which humanitarian aid has been flowing into gaza i was going to ask you because i know when we were corresponding about this earlier in the weekend, there was a sense of a relative sense of optimism about where things stand. And this morning clearly that sense seems to have faded it has it is it much less likely that were going to get a deal now . And is what you identify the reason for that . What else is going on with it this is a very difficult deal because youve got elements in the netanyahu government who do not want a ceasefire and obviously youve got in hamas murderous Terrorist Organization that launched the attack acts of october 7 and many elements of which do not want to see a hostage deal. They dont want to release the hostages. They dont want frankly, make progress towards peace. So youve got combatants on both sides who have some elements who dont want to see this deal. The United States has applied significant pressure on qatar to expel the hamas leadership if they dont come forward and weve applied significant pressure to the netanyahu government to be respectful, responsive, and to come forward. And theres been Tens Of Thousands of israelis protesting in the streets for a hostage release deal. So what would be most positive about this is that therell be a more than 40 days ceasefire. It would allow for the distribution of badly needed humanitarian aid to confront the Famine Conditions in the north of gaza. And it would begin the steps towards a Regional Peace something many of us have worked hard on, that would move forward. Saudi israeli reconciliation senator, there were reports over the weekend as well that the us had paused a un Ammunition Shipment to the israelis. Is that your understanding of whats happened . It hasnt been denied by the Biden Administration. And is that the right move . I have no more information about that. Thats public than whats been reported and i so far have simply been told this was a logistics issue. But it does signal that there are grave concerns on the part of many of us. It is a reminder that many have raised concerns about the conduct of what might be the last phase of this war in gaza, where theres more than 1 million refugees in rafah, they have to be allowed to move out of the way of a largescale attack. That government has threatened over and over that if hamas does not release the hostages, they will go ahead well, the fullblown attack on raffa, i am modestly encouraged by what you just reported this morning. Leaflets are being dropped a small number of individuals are being relocated, 100,000 peoples, not a small number of people, but in the context of rafah, it is i continue to be concerned about and to work on Hostage Issues as we discussed, casey, senator rounds and i got a bill passed through the Senate Last Week that would stop taxing american hostages. Evan gershkovich is still in prison in russia a year on adjacent rosanna Washington Post reporter was in prison in iran for 18 months. They are reminders of how hostages are held around the world, not just by hamas, but by other governments. And that americans continue believe it or not to be taxed by their own government when they are wrongfully detained or held hostage yeah, that is pretty remarkable. Im glad that you took a moment to underscore that senator, can i ask you also about the Campus Protests related to this President Biden came out late last week and condemned instances of violence do you think that he is making the right balance in terms of how he is discussing Free Speech Rights and violence on campus. And did he wait too long to come out and make that speech . Case . Yeah. I think this is just common sense, which is that in the United States, we respect free speech. Its important that people of all ages and backgrounds are able to express their political views. A particular and something thats become as contentious as the war in gaza. But when that free speech borders over into violence and intimate mediation, when students can go to campus, classes are participate in graduation without physical violence, without threats and intimidation. That thats wrong. And so many have spoken out about it. I think thats the right balance to strike in a country thats committed to free speech and where there were protests on many campuses that were peaceful. But in recent days, weve seen in a few cases those protests become violent and interfere with schooling and education frankly, in some cases, acquiring school administrations, College Administrations to call in local Police Forces senator, do you think that reality of whats going on, the pictures, the way its unfolding does that help Donald Trumps election chances in the fall . A, look, there is a sharp contrast between what donald trump says every day about his willingness to respect the election, how he views the january 6 riot that storm the capital. His intention to release those whove been convicted of writing and have insurrection of an assault on police as opposed to Campus Protests that have happened recently for a few weeks they are not a fundamental threat to our democracy. Donald trump is the only president in the last century whose in any way encouraged violence related to our politics that threatened to overturn the results of an election. Thats a far more significant issue than the ongoing current focus on whether or not on a few campuses either riders protesters exceeded what was expected of them in terms of the balance of free speech and action and whether or not Police Response was overly heavy handed. Theres been a lot of focus on Campus Protests. But bluntly, when i was up in New Hampshire, this Weekend Campaigning for the Bidenharris Campaign. What i heard from the vast majority of folks i heard from and met with was concerns about Cost Of Living reduce it the reduction. Forgive me. A Prescription Drug prices investment in new manufacturing of the jobs report. Thats what was on the mind of most of the voters. I met with this weekend very briefly, senator, before i let you go, i we were discussing earlier, senator tim scott, not saying yes or no as to whether he would accept the results of the election. This of course, after donald trump gave an interview to time where he said that there wouldnt be Political Violence, assuming because hes going to win the election basically raising the specter of violence in the event that he loses. And congresswoman Debbie Dingell said, here are a few, about an hour ago that shes concerned about another january 6 type event in the event donald trump loses. Do you share that concern . What theres lots of folks watching cable tv who are worried and who are anxious. And who are concerned. And we do a lot of talking on these shows that increases that worry and concern. For folks who are worried. Ive got a simple antidote which is get out there and get active and get engaged the events i went to this weekend in New Hampshire from claremont to dover, from conquered to manchester to portsmouth. There were lots of folks getting engaged and the local campaigns up and down the state of New Hampshire where theres a lot at stake, control of the state house, whos gonna be the next governor, whether or not New Hampshire, which has often been a swing state well come out and vote for President Biden and Vice President harris. I do think theres lots of reasons to be concerned. If you read that Time Magazine interviewed by donald trump, it is alarming. He says appalling things on a regular basis. Sunday was yamaha shoah the remembrance of the holocaust day. And for President Trump, former President Trump to casually compare the current president and his administration to the nazi regime, is just out of bounds and completely unfounded his rhetoric is out of bounds. And i hope folks who are paying attention and who are concerned, well get engaged and get active in this campaign. All right, senator chris for us this morning, senator, thanks so much for being here. I really appreciate it. Thank you, casey all right. 55 minutes past the hour. Heres your Morning Round up this morning and manhattan, a Status Conference in new jersey. Senator bob menendez, his federal criminal hello, case that hearing expected to focus on Evidence Menendez has requested for his defense against corruption charges former prosecutor nathan wade speaking out for the first time about his affair with Fulton County, Da Fani Willis as american as apple pie wade, who stepped down as Special Prosecutor for in the Georgia Election interference case, says he regrets a private matter became the focal point of such an important prosecution a significant milestone for boeings Spaceflight Program and the starliner spacecraft carrying two nasa astronauts into orbit could take off as soon as tonight at 10 34 eastern time from Cape Canaveral in florida all right lets try out to this south dakota governor kristi gnomes. Problem that continues to darker well, its the first show of spring, so well start tonight with puppy murder and a new book, south dakota governor kristi noem revealed that she wants shot a dog that was untrainable. Thats insane if a dog was untrainable, you dont shoot it. You give it to President Biden no knowing cant seem to get past the backlash for that story in her upcoming memoir about the time she shot and killed her dog, cricket but now she seems to be focusing on President Bidens dog. This is something she said this weekend joe bidens dog has attacked 24 Secret Service people. So how many people is enough people to be attacked and dangerously hurt . Before you make a decision on a dog and he is not living at the white house. Thats the question that the president should be held accountable to your saying you should be president should be a kaltura is what is, what is the number . Wow. Oh, okay. I mean i get the tactic right. Were used to seeing conservatives deflect and making about biden, but its sister yes. Shot your dog and goat on things. She was also its like no and by the way the fact that this made it into her memoir, lets write it. So there was a there was a draft that went to an editor that went through lots of other processes. And its still stayed in the book. No, it did nobody voter and say give lets not put the dog killing piece in there. I never thought that youd see the de were someone who wants to be vip . P clearly is running on killing puppies like its just like a very wet are killing dogs like its just that is not as american as apple pie, like talking about an affair all right i mean, its rare. I was not here last monday. Were talking about it that its rare to have the story carry over a week are still talking about the darn dog but i mean, its kind of karens play like karen and i are you still like cleaning up kind of what your boss has set off the cuff, you know, its in this has been thats been planned like you wrote multiple drafts after this, so and she also wrote this which i hadnt hadnt so this is also in the book, right . So this is why she was asked about this. She writes in the book, quote, what would i do if i was president on the First De In Office in 2025. Thanks for asking. I happen to have a list the first thing. Okay, so this is like shes president of the United States. Okay what could she could do anything she wants the first thing is make sure joe bidens dog was nowhere on the grounds, and then she writes, commander, say hello to cricket for me. And close. Yeah. So well get again is the dog that she took out back in shaw. Never say so. Shes more focused on how do i make this about joe biden than acknowledging maybe killing a puppy is a not Something Like you said, not something around. Well, trump doesnt like dogs, so i think maybe license say you went down like a dog or this good dog and all this stuff. So maybe she this is clearly her i think she wanted to sound tough and like im oh, yes, im a woman, but i will do those hard. They shall if that if that was what was going on in the trump team has really been very put anything to do with that . I think it didnt work. I think she should a Ran At Past Slim Fors and i mean, i dont think trump likes this type of bat, this type of bad press im going toe