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Lot of time thinking about things like that so why am i to sign my name that we refer to myself that way i guess in the world of sound bites i am. H. Is for henry my grandfathers name. I grew up in texas in the arkansas border. Cspan how long did you live there . Guest the time i was born until my first airplane ride. Cspan what was the reason your parents have gone there in the first place . Guest i got dropped out of school when he was 14 and worked as a cowboy when his dad died, walked 21 miles. That wasnt uncommon in those days, became a cotton broker from the farmers and it was a cotton farming center. To realize that you were rich and my reply is i was born rich because of the parents i had. My mother did and my dad saw me finishing the Naval Academy i couldnt take it home and finally i could buy and sell horses but i couldnt take them to a ipad paper routes and more than anything watching him do business with farmers he was a wonderful man and a very kind and decent man he works hard all year and the broker buys it. Treat the farmer family and he will come back to year after year. Good thing to teach a little boy. I have a thousand fond memories of her but she was a tiny little lady who would walk across the Railroad Tracks up the little dirt road past our house, and again and again they would come to our back door and ask for food. While we didnt have a whole lot, he always gave them food. I will never forget one day they said you have a lot of people coming here. He saidcome out here and i will show you why. He says you see that . The term originally came in after he left i said you want me to get rid of that and she said no, these are good people, just like us but they are down on their luck and we should help them. In a thousand ways, she told me that by example, not lecture that example. God bless my dad and anybody else anybody that worked for him when they go to to work he kept paying them because they were people and had families that needed to be taken care of. Every sunday after church he would go to their part of town, go into their homes and sit on their porches and summertime. People didnt do it back then that he did because he loved people. Everybody carried his Business Card and every black man that worked for him understood if anybody treated him improperly, he was to hand them my dads Business Card and he was a very modest man and a highly respected person. As a little boy i saw that and it was a wonderful place to grow up. Outstanding sister everybody asks me the whole time i was growing up why i wasnt with my sister, a grade a student. She became Vice President david coprincipal and i had money to get away and i asked her to run the foundation. She had from the foundation since 1969. This was a foundation that has more overhead. Nobody makes a penny. She runs it as an act of love, does a brilliant job. Well over 100 million. Cspan what is the criteria for giving money away . Guest first time i had money left in 30 days i gave half of it away. I got 5 million i gave 2. 5 million to an Experimental School for disadvantaged children. This is children who would have no chance they were going to prison or they would be on welfare ar and started when they were tiny, got breakfast, lunch and dinner and got the hope andd nurturing that i got at home, they got a proper diet. The school logo is a thumbprint and that meant you are special and unique and theres only one person like you and you can be anything you want to be. That school was a success if it was part of the Public Schools and it got wiped out one day by a federal judge on an integration order and he didnt know what he had done until after he had done it. Its exciting these little children at the school right now from the time they are three to nine. We are changing it now that the First Contact with the mother is pregnant and many cases she will come right to the school and until he or she finishes third grade heres the exciting thing in the general privation hanging on the ropes, 90 of the children are on the honor roll. You can take a segment of society destined to go on welfare and send them to college but also because our Public Schools are too easy. From that population, 100 100 t started first gradbutstarted fie ropes. It will be a generational change in adult allday and my parents had changed. Cspan do you remember the first thing you have to say . Guest i never thought about it. I was president of the student council. They had decided to build a new Junior College across the street on a square of land. I and the other students felt this was a great mistake and they should build a better campus. This was unthinkable at this time. I took a pretty good level but we were able to build a consensus number two if you do expect to get cut up and number three if you are worried about your image its probably not good to get around. Host you know you get a lot of response and youve been at the press club three times in 16 to 18 months. I dont know that they have done this before. Do you know why they invite you back . Guest i have no idea. Everybody asks me about and why did they invite you back . I dont know. Cspan do you get reaction . Guest it is my understanding they get a very large reaction but you should check that with them. Cspan what do you do when you gave a speech, you should look out there and see if thats what do you do and what is your technique . Guest i talk about what i believe in and i write my own speech. If there is a technique thats it. I talk about what i really believe in. Cspan do you sit around and talk too much . Guest for example, i collect newspapers. I read newspapers and magazines, tear things up in facts and numbers and i spent two days on the speech i gave to a common typ, typed upon a typewriter thn i was a young officer in the navy and then had a great young lady that worked in my office and she cleaned it up when did you start doing that, taking the articles . Guest a number of years ago. I would read things that interested me on education, international affairs, the development of children, research is another interest. Anything that im interested and i take an hour and a half off some afternoon and get it organized. Anytime i make a speech i just have to go disappear and get it organized and write it and this is an unusual case i try to organize the press club. It shows. Cspan where do you live now . Guest in dallas. Its headquartered here in virginia. Cspan you mentioned eds earlier. What is the . Guest a Computer Service company that created a whole segment of the computer industry where you go to the companies and tell them in advance what they are going to get and what its going to cost and how long it takes to build and operate for ten years at a predetermined price which is a great appeal to the countries over just short of finding out each year with a budgethebudget with computers id that was a great adventure. Its fun to talk to the young entrepreneurs. You go to Harvard Business school. How do you make all that money and get the idea to start . I never had a goal to make a lot of money and never cared about money. My idea was considered so bad when i started up if nobody else would touch it and i was stuck with the whole thing. Fortunately, it worked but i would love to have an investor that everybody looked at it and said you are going against ibm. You will never make it and then a few months into the game in the first account that i find them here is life in the trenches. They got the public bank and arthur young to come out and explain to the founder that if he did business with me it would bankrupt them. A strange Little Company with a strange idea and when they left, he started out cooking potato chips in his kitchen and delivering them in his truck. He looked around the room, smiled and said that these boys must have something. Or all these companies would be overreacting in these ways. I later became the largest customer. When the public bank failed i had interesting assignment guaranteeing the transaction was building so that nothing would be interrupted in the process. Wait long enough into the world comes back full circle i guess. Host then the Naval Academy. Guest is importan guest is important for young people to understand things like this. First year, second year and one day a telegram came and i had it framed in my office. Of course i remember who it was so i was thrilled and wrote him a thank you letter. A man called me and said do you ever wonder how you got that appointment i was the senators aide and we were cleaning out his office and i said senator, we have an appointment for the Naval Academy. Shhe said does anybody want it d the senator said your name never came up. I got to go to a great school and got an education and was top leadership to give you a contrast accepted at west point he spent his life on the factory floor. The difference between he and myself, i passed the exam. I will tell you another thing i never forget, if im driving down the street and there is a road crew working inside look at those guys, they are taxpayers and its people like that that made it possible for me to have an education so i have been very, very lucky and the lock continues. 4953, keep in mind ive never seen a ship it was terrific. Terrific. I met wonderful people from all over the United States an interesting thing happened they were evaluating on leadership by classmate of the upperclass, u, military officers and academic officers. At the end of the first year they posted that and i was ranked first in the class. It was like learning to play the piano by ye ear. That kind of ranking kept happening and i realized this is every skill i had that nobody thought about before. It was just something new. I had the honor of being the president of the senior class, junior class on the committee. I just had a wonderful experience. I have four great years. Host cspan do you remember people that taught you . Guest number one, my mom and dad. Number two, some great teachers. They said its a shame you are not as smart as your friends and i had some outstanding friend. I had young people i grew up with that were an inspiration to me. Visit talk is cheap. Straight as the next six weeks she laughed and walked away. It gave me the academic record that allowed me at the end of my first year at the Naval Academy i finished writing up to the toy class in english i said i thought about writing new. So she had an impact. They sought his advice and said theres only one issue and that is staying on the principle that if you think you should, thats what you should do. Dont worry about the controversy. Cspan how many years . Guest 2 00 in the morning to that experienced it gave me an opportunity to see the world and its interesting that when i grew up of geography courses were terrific. I knew where everything was i couldnt afford to go. Now everybody can afford to go but they dont know where it is because they dont teach geography anymore. We went around the world i came home ancamehome and by then i hy present wife, she was still in college and had five children from 34 down to 21. Cspan what is your philosophy about kids and money . Guest it became a publicly owned company and people started asking me what i first felt like and i said repeatedly i dont feel like a big success and i wont until all of these children are adults and they have to do something about that concern. All five are just worldclass. The sun is the most wellknown. He has my name. There is no better place to live. In college he decided one year he was going to jump school then he decided he wanted to go 13 weeks marine officer training and a navy crews wanted to fly a helicopter he got his license and wanted to fly when he flew to alaska came home and this is i can fly this thing around the world. Anybody that has any sense can fly over a big lake. He kept coming in and coming in. Finally we announced he was going to do it, he came in, looked me in the eye and said you raised me to be this way and now yonouns you dont like me ty i am. If you start this, just dont quit. He laughed and walked out and 12 days later walked off. They made it around the world in 30 days the most critical part was from japan to try to get them to the carolinas. He came up with a creative idea this is in a 12 day period halfway between the illusions and japan. I could land on the container and refuel. I said that is a good idea but can you find one and they came back and he had a time slot and landed just ahead of a typhoon so hes halfway there. The ship was rolling to the point they had to get it off the top. All of these calculations showed he would go in the water at night. If they try to land at the carolinas they would shoot him down so he wasnt testing to go over there. So he pragmatically decided i di will get as close as i can its the same interpretative and they would have to shift it he won the medals very few people have with a technical difficulty he got all kinds of recognition and i watched him then he came in in a few months into this i will never feel right about myself going into the service. I will let you know. The coast guard and the air force. They selected him as a cadet and i said that they wouldnt have picked you on day number one. Here is a kid with a silver spoon. Then he had a great adventure as a fighter pilot. One the top award, none of his sisters knew what it was. Just had a great experience in the air force and suddenly the air force sergeant recommended him as one of the Outstanding Young men. Thats nice, thats from the heart the proudest moment in my life is what happened next. He said theres one thing thats important to me i want tha won t sergeant sitting right next to you and there is a kid with his head straight for he finished his turn in the air force and i found out last summer he had an opportunity to fly for 29 and have done it. One last great for those i hope hes out of it now but straight down the runway he put it o than his tail and 70,000 feet into thats something an american Fighter Pilots would never think that he could have the chance to do. Ask him if he wanted to do and he did i. Can go through each of my daughters but we would have to have a sixhour show. They are all too good to be true. Two of them are married and have four grandchildren expecting another two and another getting married. Cspan would you say that you have a large disappointment in your life and if you have, what was that . Guest a love disappointments. Everybody thinks like this carefully planned we will come back to that if you want to. Ive had people in the best schools in the country say if they were like you, i could do what youve done and this goes all the way to say what do you mean . If i didnt feel pain or hurt or cried, then i could do what you do. I said do you really think thats the way it is . I think its important for everyone to understand that just goes with it and theres a lot of frustrations and disappointments the ones that would have broken my heart, no. Five out of five or just pearls and i can tell you how proud we are. Cspan money, agreed. Talk about that, do you ever feel greed . Guest i am not interested in money and my wife isnt interested in money. Because i surrounded myself with a group of very talented people who built a Great Company it wouldnt be the company it is today if we hadnt have all these talented people and as it is as executive, you understand the multiplier. You cant take it with you. If you can take it with you is the most overrated thing in the world. We drove into dallas had everything that we owned was in the trunk of a 52 and we were just as happy then as we are today. Happiness is a state of mind. Its the saddest thing in the world to see people chase the dollar. Greed is terribly disruptive. We are born selfish and anyone will tell you that. We have to be taught to care and share. Greed is disruptive to the civilized society. As a hunter survivalist. Greedy people are disruptive. That was a very destructive thing in the company. A lot of damage cspan are you going to run for president and you told us you are waiting for the 50 states sign up. Do you think it will have been . Guest i dont know. I didnt think so. It came up on the larry king show and the first question was will you run, no then we talked about a lot of things. Then the last question was is there any set of circumstances, under any circumstances would you run and i said just one. I have all these people that write to me and call me day after day after day that are just your ordinary people most of the letters were written in longhand. If those people on their own want to go out in 50 states with nobody programming them, nobody telling them what to do and put me on the ballot as an independent, i will run as their servant, but if i do, i dont want to belong to anybody but them and they wouldnt consider running within the twoparty system because you have to compromise and make deals to get their. I feel personally that reason it isnt working now is the ordinary person in our country, the owner has abdicated his responsibility as the owner. You are supposed to have a government that comes from us to washington. The people in washington are supposed to be our servant. You have a government that comes from washington at us and the people feel power. And that is the first example i can give you right here in them is our servants in washington are surrounded by quadruple layers of security. If you go down the street, the owners of the company come if you live in washington, d. C. , but in the neighborhoods where you are afraid to go outside the daytime that is assuming you have some folks working at your house in a high risk area but they were all covered with security. And they were absolutely on your own when you walk up and down the street. Streets. The most interesting phenomenon when i came to washington i said isnt this interesting. The owners are unprotected and a good time and got elected servants protected themselves like royalty. The challenge is to have the city safe working at the capital of the United States. Cspan have you thought through what would happen if they are signed up . Guest i told people i would run and i will. If there is only one condition and i hope to cross this bridge early because i have to put this on the ballot pretty early. I have to petition pretty early. I will hope to have a vice the e president is a more qualified person than i am, and i will not just reach for an empty seat, this person will have to be totally qualified to replace me if anything should happen to me. Thats the way it works if you are in and defend and. Youve got to pick your Vice President. That person was on the ballot with you. The important thing is that person is full and the test is good that person be chief of staff . Cspan have you thought about the person youre so . Guest i have to because i have people trying to get a valid signed and they cant until that persons name is on the petition. Cspan when are you going to give them a name . Weeks or days . Guest probably more days than weeks. I owe that to them i cant ask people to walk around if i cant give you what they have to perform. Cspan have you taken a peek at how many you have to sig sigd by wayne . Guest is a Supreme Court case that says no deadline that early to not have the controversy with the state of texas that is the shortest one. The Supreme Court decision as it was explained to me says that you dont have to have this done until after the convention. Cspan is there a state that makes it impossible for you to bring . Guest i it is and pretty in any state because the two parties over the years have it set up a s. A whole series of difficult series to get through. If you are in the primary, you can sign a petition. It varies from state to state but there are always hurdles. They are out there in all 50 states on their own now. Cspan when you think of a running mate are you thinking of somebody already in office or somebody thats not . Guest somebody thats not. Cspan a woman or man . Guest the most qualified person i can find. Cspan and a certain region of the country . Guest i dont want to get political. A state so small there isnt even a delicate, not that there is one, but the best qualified person, that is all that matters. Cspan looking for a different business person . Guest i would want someone who understood business and economics because we have so few people in washington who do. Everybody had understood business economics couldnt see the problem that we have now. Cspan how about you know once this happens you will be under a tremendous amount of scrutiny. Have you ever been a republican or democratic . Guest wine independent. I go to all my life. Cspan is there a way to define what you think, is there an ideology you want to be known for . Guest i expressed it as clearly as i could the press club today it would take about 30 or 40 minutes to cover. But in terms of what i feel the country needs to do, i could say as plainly as i could say. Cspan cspan how if you look at how much it would cost . Guest a loss. Cspan and you are prepared to pay for it yourself . Guest i do not want to take money from any special interest. I will take it with me when i go. These ordinary folks and 50 states do their job ive told them i would run. I cant give them again but i would spend 3. Everybody that knows me understands you can win if you get to this point and then to run a firstclass budget campaign. Cspan what do you say to people that react as many professionals have its never happened, third parties just dont make it in this country . Guest its up to the people. I feel strongly anybody that could do this job properly from a selfish point of view the people who are intrigued with it and are willing to go out there and promise anybody anything anytime go more in depth just this year are driven by ego and the design for power. If that is what they want, fine. I am not listing to do this thing. If they want me to do it i will do it and give it all ive got and i would be ready to go back to texas when its ready. Cspan what woul with what youy about your ego . Guest i always felt i had an advantage over people who have so much talent that they couldnt find anybody better than they were. Everything they do is obvious to me from day number one i cant do most of it. It is rewarding for them so they enjoy being part of a team. Guest im not prepared to say at this point. If we do get into this we will not follow the timehonored pattern. Cspan with you challenge the other candidates to a debate . Guest i would be happy to debate them in terms of things i wouldnt do is i wouldnt get into this mud wrestling that they like to get into. The strategy now is to try to wreck the country to pieces and get enough electoral votes to get their person in and we keep forgetting after november its scattered all over it with take two or three years to get them back into one piece. We are a melting pot and we need to work as a team cspan you are critical of congress. Guest because of the individuals. Ive said again and again you could replace everybody in congress, put them in that system and they will look just like the people that you replace them with. All the strange stuff you see first post of taking paperclips home and then pencils and then they say write a check. Then they say maybe we could use his car because he is never here and then an airplane come he never here. Now who are the owners . We are the owners and we just acted like they are our bosses and we are their servants. They have us working five months a year now just paying taxes for a system that doesnt work. And i said that the press club b when youre 4 trillion in debt, we should have created utopia with that. In fact we have a country that has all kinds of problems, plus the death. The system didnt work because we the people, the owners have not been good stewards in our country if we hadnt acted like we own it and now the process is reversed into the system comes at us and bought from us. Cspan you surround yourself with political pros . Would you hire a consultant . Guest you are talking about for a campaign . We are at the campaigns do. Cspan absolutely still talking about the campaign. Guest instead of taking the team to beat the same practices, one of these things s they have around the campaigns, i wouldnt want to be a part of any of that. Cspan would yo was elected to political advertising would you have a different twist on that . Guest i hope we do because it is just people shouting. Cspan would you like the handshaking guest when real people, nothing better. Cspan cspan was hard but wouldnt you like . Guest the formal part is all of the formal stuff. The guy that stops you on the street and wants to visit with you, people if you are having lunch one day and just come over and visit with you that is a real part. Formal ceremonies, things like fund raising dinners, enough money they ought to be too smart to go to one. Only in america could you have people that have their picture taken with the candidate and pay extra and then before you get to eat, they give you a short talk and leave when you sit there and eat and its the big events that by the time you get your picture taken its cost you 2,000. If theres anything more phony than that, i dont know what it is. I dont want to be a part of it, it stinks. And that is the Current System we have. Cspan what is your limit on the political contributions . Guest as im sure that after we get a petition signed with all of those things going on, i would like for ordinary folks across the country that make the country go i want to put 5 into it because i want thewantedto ask again and again. Cspan what would be, if you one, your plan to reduce the deficit . Ive heard you give the troops and expenses in japan, how soon would you bring this into balance . Guest the first thing that i would want to do is create what i call the electronic town hall where i could explain issues to the people in detail and the people could respond by Congressional District in a way that the congress wouldnt know exactly what they wanted. This is how to cut the budget and tax system, you name it. Cspan how soon would you do the townhall . Guest youve got to be able to tell them whats going on. Cspan how can you do with that vast . Guest the tv is here. I wish Interactive Television were here. On cable, a lot of the Cable Networks had the ability to respond and for those who dont have cable you are stuck with telephones. Cspan how do you trust the information that you are getting . Guest both ways pretty simple. If you see the telephone response then you go by Congressional District. Cspan would you see yourself sitting in the white house and say we have an issue here . Guest the technology has changed so completely that we can now get a response from the owners. This one and at 1 trillion and nothing to show for a. You had the electronic town hall would you abide by the wishes of the people under all circumstances quick. Its a free country. Give me an example. Should be segregate or integrate if i said segregate quick. Wait a minute for god sakes. We are imploding economically. So now the last thing we need to do is put stress on the melting pot. If you want to do that then go do that on your own. So we have to fix the most critical problem. Then go back to the constitution to say lets take that first. Thats a piece of the endangered species. To keep that going you cannot discuss it because you have any money to take care of that and everybody understands that. First things first going down the list. You have to have a new tax system it is corrupt. It has to be fair. Number two and then with everybodys history but only people can give congress and the white house a pay raise sofas based on performance. They think they deserve one that give them a pay raise no. So then change the voting day to saturday and sunday. Theres just a whole series of housecleaning things that are common sense. Everybody knows thats a good idea. Stop releasing data on east coast to the west coast and clean up the system. Shorten time. Can you do that without breaking the First Amendment quick. Can you stop that from dueling exit polling quick. You have to put about 30 lawyers on that one. But we can understand the inequity because that really impacts what happens out west. So with everybody concerned. And this is damaging the election process. Its really not fair. Gives us soundbites. And we can do that if we have to but we have to have fair elections. So im a happy man. To say that you have intelligence organization. That is a nice assumption. And as a threat. This is not a situation this is a situation where we are going to war. And to have all the time in the world we decided there to be five or six months. Well certainly we should discuss that with their sons and daughters so now they should understand it was four months before the white house was doing configure how they were doing it. And guess what we still have nuclear biological and chemical from hussein. Now if i knock on your door and then if i said that hit me right in the mouth. So then to talk me into it. So if we had troops on the ground in the middle east 223 marines in beirut those with a big chunk of lebanon and the cia in central america. And then to capture. And then to have that special forces team to go pick him up and pick them up but theres no risk at all. But then we spent ten years to chase saddam hussein. But then talking about this man. And then from 1982 on. It with those written instructions to say do not become involved and basically said if you want to take those parts that you can. But then we got our feelings hurt. And then it was all ego trips and insecurity and we tried to turn it into the super bowl of wars. And then the guy cut to pieces in the desert. Either all the heroes are generals or politicians. So i know what war is. I know what these guys look like. And for those widows and so on and so forth. I know what its like for those guys to come back from vietnam. And nobody cares about them. They spit on them after they spent years over there. You just dont throw people into war just because they have embarrassed you. Led in the meantime so on and so forth but in the meantime you want to make sure before you send one person on the battlefield and then you commit the troops. So the last question. You know what is your guess with the 50 states will sign up quick. And never thought they would be in 50 states. I thought it would go away in a few days. But at this point in time i dont think it has anything to do with that or with peoples concern where we are or where we are going. People are concerned will the country continue to prosper . And they all have the same concern now. That is all that is. In or out of it . Some time frame of this debate when you have to make a decision quick. Its over. Then i go back to work. Texas is. Excuse me. I am saying that is my deal with the american people. I will drop everything. I will be your servant but then ill be glad to go back to work. And you have 54000 signatures quick. Thats my understanding. Host i assume youll pick up where we left off here sometime in the future. We will see where it goes. [no audio] britton is expected to have a new Prime Minister former london mayor johnson and British Foreign secretary are the two leading candidates to replace teresa may. In a debate focusing on brexit and future relations with us after a diplomat was caught and disparaging remarks that were leaked to the media. That prompted a response from the president on twitter where he was critical of the ambassador and theresa mays handling of brexit. I think that leadership is also about values and difficult thing sometimes things you have to say to your friends youd rather not like the comments about theresa may were unacceptable. I dont think he should have made them. And as i did with the chinese last week even with a Health Secretary over six years i had some very difficult decisions and tough times but with 3 million more patients so leadership is about get things done. And the president s comment with the Prime Minister and uk ambassador to the us. I had a very Good Relationship with white house im very proud i could go through and i think its very important we should have a close friendship and partnership with the United States. They are our most important all ally. He was dragged into a british political debate all i dont know if that was the right thing to do but that doesnt reflect our relationship with us is fantastic. And as a british Civil Servant it is absolutely right that the advice that they give to ministers should not be leaked and should not be commented on if Civil Servants are feeling free to give that advice with the impartiality. Just to get the facts he would still be in his job at the end of his tenure if he becomes Prime Minister quick. I will say this about the relationship. I believe the relationship with the United States and between the uk and usa is the most Important Alliance in history. But who chooses our ambassadors is a matter for the United Kingdom government and the United Kingdom Prime Minister. So i have made it clear. [applause] that the ambassador in washington. I listened very carefully to what he just said. It is vital that our Civil Servants are not politicized by ministers leaking what they say. Whether that is to be eviscerated. Come on. Nobody here. Let me answer. [laughter] but he is due to retire. I will keep him until he chooses to retire. But i will say is that i alone will decide who takes those job such as ambassador to the us. [applause] thank you

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