Watch this viral genome mutate as it spreads around the world. It is critically important. Welcome. We have a talk with mike davis it is exciting to see people joining from all over the country and really around the world. And its exciting to have this chance to hear and engage with mike tonights talk with mike is cosponsored by verso and haymarket books. The longtime comrades as independent radical publishers in the United States we are also both publishers of mike davis very proud publishers. And we are teaming up to try to do a series of things during this pandemic also because we are on lockdown. Were trying to find new ways for us to share information and you might have caught the excellent teaching last week. They started to pioneer the online form. Novelist event super informative even inquired some 15,000 of us participated in that. And this is aiming to be a kind of series that haymarket put together. They have already organized a followup to the previous talk and they are going to reconvene these three and discuss the further politics of coronavirus and the next talk will be broadcast on thursday april 9 thats not this thursday but next thursday at 5 00 eastern time the following thursday the series continues with the great dialogue between the scholars and activists. Two of the great experts on the Industrial Complex on the reasons for that. They will talk together on thursday april 16 at 5 00 p. M. These links will be available below you can register for both of these events like on event bright. The talk with mike well also be recorded. You can access it on the haymarket books. And on the verso book. And let me just say a little bit about verso and haymarket as i say to the leading independent radical publishing houses in the United States those that are suffering during this incredible crisis. Like a lot of other organizations across our movements. This is a really big challenge for us. If you are getting something from this event with mike this talk the great talk with naomi and others if you had profited from the knowledge that you are getting from those books. This is a good time something and buy books from us. That would keep us going. And keep this kind of thing going. We also have been mouth a demo for donations. Youre able to donate to this. It is a little bit of an appeal. Tonights talk is can be a little different than last weeks a great talk with naomi. And now were oneonone with mike and gave questions to them. If youre thinking of things you want to address. You can respond to the videos if you are on you too. If youre watching on twitter tweet us and i will collate some of the questions along with my comments. We will put those to mike. More intimate oneonone with mike. And one little thing we learned last week from the first of these online teachings is that if you are having some trouble with the broadcast quality that you are seeing sometimes you can see adjust your image quality reduced in other words. And you will get a little bit better sound. This is all new for us. Please have a little forbearance for our technical difficulties. Those are probably going to be inevitable. Let me do see a couple of words about mike. I imagine a lot of folks tuning and know about his writing but some might be new to mikes work. He is one of the great last historians and political and cultural analyst. He has written and edited some 20 bucks across a wide array of topics. Its probably fair to say that there are couple of main threads in their work. The focus on Southern California. In books like ecology of fear he has analyzed the history of Southern California and los angeles. I bring this up because mike has a new book coming out in just two weeks. Right into the middle of this crisis but hes been working on it for years and years. Its a book called set the night on fire. It is a big history of the radical 1960s black and brown movements that propelled the city forward during those years. Pick company wrote with a long time analyst. A fantastic book. It is available for preorder. Check that out. Another main thread of mikes career as a thinker and activist is the global effects of globalization of our era the capital globalization. Some of the contradictions that had availed evolved because of that. In the relationship in the pandemics and so forth with the spread development of a global capitalist. Theres nobody it seems to me better positioned to analyze our current moment than mike davis. I think what we will do in the upcoming hour mike is going to lead us through some of the ways they see the politics of this pandemic and talk for about 30 minutes or so starting a series of issues. That im in a try to collate a bunch of the questions that you guys send in. And then put them to mike for the second halfhour. I want to be mindful of mikes time and energy. And then will need to wrap up after that 60 minutes. Without that further ado mike davis. I have the coronavirus one that is called the common cold. Maybe we should just start very basically with you describing just a little bit this coronavirus how does it differ from influenza. What is to most folks surprising. Heavy places in a longer history. In the late 20th century up to 2003 they were mainly of interest to generic medicine. They cause devastating epidemics especially with young animals. It is responsible for a lot of economic damage in the pork industry but it also has affected cattle. It was well known that there were two coronavirus including the one i have which caused mild colds. And then the two in 2003 in Southern China and hong kong this was to give us the background and how they operate. In the beginning it seems to spread. In a hotel. With six scientists. It had been 24 hours in five other countries. It looked like it was about to become a pandemic at the time they realized it wasnt an influence they began the search to find out exactly what this was and it was causing this fatigue known as severe acute respiratory syndrome. This is certainly expected. I should back up a little bit here. Viruses are basically genes that had to figure out a way to break into your cell. And then hijack the machinery. With the Proof Reading mechanism they replicate the copies of themselves. Their they are based in the rna. To make proteins. The spellcheck as it were. This means that they are constantly making errors. They are also evolving and mutating a million times faster than about anything else. With any human cell. They would take 7 million years of evolution to produce certain changes. In an rna virus. They can occur in four days. This is a world where ella evolution evolution is set up a million times where the viruses are xeroxes and printing out your written copies. This is a great advantage. With the antibodies that they are producing. Coronavirus is in particular had the largest genome amongst rna viruses. About twice the size to go back to that sars epidemic. This is frightening. It was killing dirty of the people who got it. Eventually about 2000 people got it. It stimulated those across the way. To understand how this thing works. It became so much different than the common cold. But the thing that really saved us in 2003 is the fact that it was only contagious when people were symptomatic. When they were displayed symptoms. With different influenza. It can be spread asymptomatic lay. This gives influenza wings to fly that coronavirus and the stars form didnt. It was easier to suppress. And within a year they stopped thinking about it. The last case we have that corona vaccine. To be the chief enemy. They would have that killing capacity in the universal dissemination. Greatest single mortality event in human history. Then in 2012 with the update of the new disease. It turns out this was really very common. If you go into the tomb you will die. There is some truth in it. It was the origin disease. It also turned out to be a coronavirus. Similar in many respects to sars in the beginning they have an even higher mortality rate. Once again it was contagious only in the stage of them representing symptoms. They went are a tremendous amount of research on the coronavirus is an on the reservoir of coronavirus. In front of hours is not the epidemic to bats it is stunning. A way of subtypes and strains. They shared a should hundred different bat species. Now theyre setting on the species. About the current virus. And the virus. It closely resembles the mideast coronavirus. There is a lot of shared genome is not as deadly by far. But on the other hand the ability to spread. It is incredibly infectious. So the defense trait. The scary aspect. Just briefly still on the scientific level and since you had been studying all of these diseases what is your sense of what our scientific response can be to this. Until a vaccine is developed are there other options. When our president endorsed a malaria medicine to this and how effective it would be. In africa it caused a huge panic. Why not. They were actually riots. Please have to be called in. Making the statement theres probably about a hundred Different Research teams working on the antiviral things that have been developed for tuberculosis hiv. And right now the only things that seem immediately within reach is the convalescent plasma. If somebody gets the disease and then they get well. You separate the blood cells. In the plasma has the antibodies to counter the infection. This can be directly transfused in the people. They had been tested positive. The idea has been around for more than a century. Whether it works or not is confusing but there is a lot of us enthusiasm right now. That might be that most effective treatment for people who are suffering from this critical case. This is very interesting. Lets switch gears a bit. Globally you wrote a recent piece. To the mess in this country. Talk a little bit about your different responses nationally to the crisis. What are the high and low plate points critically. China responded to the new virus is the same as sars. They were spreading this misinformation. And allowed it to become epidemic. But then the government stepped in their mobilization they are highly effective. When everyone was quarantined there was a window of maybe two weeks which allowed the chinese in beijing to bring in doctors and nurses from across china. China because it has manufactured so many of those. With the medical supplies. The combination of being able to trace an army of medical personnel and the fact that they had protected these. It was about 5 . After the mobilization mortality was under 1 . I tried to argue in an article that these authoritarian leaders of western countries have them learning the wrong lessons from this. You need a semi totalitarian advice. I dont think putting a million and camps for surveyed all of the jaywalkers in china and introducing the social credit. With the success of the success in china. An organized sense. You have the glass Roots Organization and it goes anywhere in the world. The medical care in china has always been a problem with a lot of cutbacks. But still, it has a large practicing community. The Critical Research communities almost everything we know about coronavirus is coming out of chinas research. One of the things that beijing did when it took charge of this. And it have done the same thing back in 2003 they have to encourage Chinese Workers to share that. During the time when trump was raging against the chinese disease. He was crazy. This is also the case in each stage of the country. It was able to test anybody who suspected that they have to shut down so much of their economy. It had been leaders. The amazing pandemic stockpile. Which is absolutely lifesaving entire ran. The important thing is if you dont learn about that. The Surveillance Society and allowing it to fight is diseases like diseases like this. We must begin to think about how we develop our own model and agency response. When it is based on grassRoots Organization one that has aids on stockpile. The development of new antivirals. Actually, right now there has been a revolution with the development of pharmaceuticals. It started with aids. When you were in the 1980s and the 1990s. There was the scientific revolution going on. As a laissezfaire. With the public medicine. When they were developing this resolution. In enabling at to save millions and millions of lives. The problem is the private ownership. With the pharmaceutical industries. Basically big pharma that is basically art system that is fundamentally uninterested and is constitutionally uninterested. They would put itself at out of business for example. Imagine that you are gm engineering. It would last a lifetime. It could be made very cheaply and so youre excited and you take it to the board of general motors. Are they can approve the development of the car. That has been example ugly the big vaccines. I think probably the majority of people in the Research Community would agree its entirely possible. With the big pharma line. The thing about big pharma the aging companies 18 companies that control pharmaceuticals is not simply that they hike up races and exploit s to be available. It justifies the monopolies. That is the answer of research. They have totally advocated development with research and development. Through tropical diseases. And antibiotics. In the last few years. They are running wild in the hospitals. In 40 or 50 americans per year are dying because of these infections. It is being pulled back in big pharma. They shall this essential test. They dont do what their potential justification is. At the same time they spend more on advertising than they do in r d. Like the assumption. And men my age. It seems like they actually buy up small firms. In the research. They dont want the competition. Sometimes the buy up to get that new product is that new technology. They take it off the market. The actually suppressing the development. We could go on for a long time talking about this. Its not just drug prices that had to be addressed. When they are talking about the public perfection. And the description of medicines. They could do just that. With american history. It was an absolutely necessary proposal. Now you are moving to this area of how the Progressive Movements can think about the response to organize for this. Can you get a little bit more into that. Your sense of what a program can be what your senses of Different Countries responses at this point. There had been some that are encouraging from the left governments. They have to have a program for us. To think and organize and imagine a response. I have an interview a week ago they made the distinction between two kinds. They were dramatically formed. They were forms that could coexist. With our existing economic systems. Maybe they didnt require the socialism but challenged the logic of capital and private ownership now a new developing demands it is the advanced position of the new deal. It was a second bill of rights. That they made the platform. The final campaign in 1944. Just go to our revolution. And you will find not only excellent immediate demands about the pandemic. But the program that we had been fighting for. For so long. Obviously singlepayer care is essential. I have to go back and look for the 1910. They look at the current crisis. They have to socialize in the production. With the development of medicine. We also need to look at the relationships with of private corporations. To the current crisis. Take amazon for instance. Him is that its not simply that the volume is up and they are making extraordinary progress but that the distinction is a franchise with bigger companies. Consolidate a market position that makes amazon the biggest monopoly in the world history. We could use antitrust on this like Elizabeth Warren is crusading for. You can make it pay higher taxes. Amazon has become the infrastructure for the production of information and distribution of goods. It should become a public utility. They are fighting against the power of combination. To socialize them and make them democratically controlled. I think it should be considered the public utility. We should go back to s access properties. And they began. The profits at 7 . Anything above that had to be repaid to the government. They were fully implement it to be sure. Fdr when they said it further. Further. They put the cap on anthem. 100 income tax. There was a feeling on income. A huge reaction. But it was popular. We need to think about this as something that we should urge democrats to take a stand on. Public development. And make breaking up meet breaking up big pharma. In the meantime during the three democratic president s. With the excess profits. I want to get back to this and the question of demand strategy. Its about 6 40. Halfway through this. We wanted this to be a really big back and forth and we have gotten a lot of questions really smart im going to group a couple of these. It takes us back to some of the earlier points that you are hurting. Some people might have tuned in. About the global rollout of this pandemic. The kinds of responses we had been seen. They asked why and how has it reached africa so late is that bizarre. What do you think of that. Another person ask an interesting question about the pandemics and impact on mexico. They took this not so seriously at first. But how is it rolling out. And why is it rolling out in a different way. Its been a lot of nonsense. And particularly breast africa. When we have the population there. Weve heard a lot of stuff about that. We dont have much impact in africa because the people are so young. And its hotter climate this really is in some ways appalling. We need to keep in mind from the start as far as weather goes the 1918 and 1919 with the 1918. On the idea it is an extension of the disease. They will follow the same pattern. As it has done in the United States or western europe equally foolish. Africa has 24 Million People with aids. 30 of africans simply had no access between water and sanitation. It is impossible. 70 of africans live in the slums with social distancing not possible. Now nutrition, the civil wars. Let me make an analogy in 1918 it became a decisive factor on the western front. That is usually the story that is told. There are many books out there. The greatest mortality wife. Because they were famished. With the exports of grain. They kept the indian army there. The immune systems were suppressed. 20Million People died so what is ignored in this. What happens when you have hiv and you had aids. What happens in the immune system is suppressed by hunger. What happens when you dont have sanitation. From china or the west. He of well relatively healthy population and access to medicine and african doctors in International Organizations had been warning that its a time bomb. It could erase any damage. There is Something Else that needs to be considered. With the coronavirus it is an animal. What they have discovered is the same coronavirus has two modes of operation. It can also say with the gastrointestinal disease. And the reason this research is significant is consistently an animal. They are by far more deadly. There is a real chance that the coronavirus encounters populations of people that lack sanitations. There is already a minority case. People that had diarrhea and nausea. For example. It has been seen in the United States. It could become a very large number of people. I guess what im ultimately trying to say here is the factor to humanities in the neurological sense already. The danger is that this pandemic will deepen their divide theres two kinds of human population. With a lot of defense. And the other having bodies that are extraordinary and fragile. A longtime theme of years. Writing about disease that is actually vulnerable. In fact we had two or three questions about this. The really big and really fundamental broad question. Its very straightforward they asked. What can you say about the link between Climate Change and disease. Pandemic and otherwise. There is huge literature out there because Climate Change is totally redrawing the biogeography of the planet and is moving with a topical disease. Northwood. Undoubtedly they will see the return of malaria to europe in the next decade or so. Its also from their conditional nature. They are just a crime dash met Climate Change. We have little. With the major voice. They had been logging corporate logging. With the hiv part of the story. It has been working with the case. A number of diseases. There are several coming into contact with humans. And Climate Change in short is hugely powerful. We are mixing up environments and bodies in species creating a whole new landscape to proper gait and grow. And most of all involved. Once we really use that. You had mentioned again Climate ChangePolitics Around the world. There had been several questions that had drawn the connection between Climate Change and disease. Also what have been a vibrant Climate ChangeProgressive Movement with direct action being pioneered by groups. There is a series of questions about how do we protest influence whats going on in this moment of lockdown. Many of our usual methods bringing pressure for demand are not available under social distancing what are some expanded methods that we can use. I have seen it today. On television. With amazon warehouse. With social distancing. I dont see any case for totally abandoning the streets or protests in public spaces. Obviously whats going on now to challenge principal to the virtual skills of the new left. I spoke to you earlier. In the great stuff thats going on. If you keep to to keep to the streets as well. The accusation cant be made while you are endangering people. Because people are endangered by the fact that they have no protection. Their conditions are unsafe. It is a Major Public Health risk. Im not sure that they have could have gotten the same attention on that. We have to see some ground with more protests. To the emergency we can just not leave the streets. There was a huge difference between Climate Change and pandemic disease. In terms of the instrument interest. With the pandemic you cant totally neglect that side. What has been incubated there. Theyll be substandard and medical care and sanitation. And some that will come back and bite people. This is a classic case in england. Climate change doesnt look like that. With the societies that produced the Greenhouse Gas emissions. And the societies of those. And the effects. They had been addressing both. Not at all. So much of our discussion about the Climate Change is through mitigation. The big question is adaptation. And the United States and every rich country just as they have long been imperiled to pay up the dues. They have failed to finance to meet the premises. To provide investment. Its the Climate Change. Its more challenging. They can help you with self interest. The world market has virtually collapsed. However, when we look at governmental response to the pandemic here in the United States but all across the world it provides a textbook case of what they often said. There are all kinds of opportunistic infections on top of this pandemic. Not only they are using the cove in 19 crisis. Someone else wants you to address increasing environmental destruction. Again after tuna sick usage of this. He has really blockaded. The viewer should probably go to jay street which has some very important articles in the suspicion that is absolutely vital. They are now being allowed. In the same way in other cases. Cashmere as you mentioned. The same kind of thing. Going on. What we have here is a new train of struggle. Globally so on one hand you have a coalition and capital with authoritarian governments trying to increase the already in enormous powers of surveillance simultaneously with new accumulation strategies. And on the other hand you have our site which wants to see in the democratic approach for how he fights this. Depending on the 90pound weakling. The governmental corporate groups in the giants. We had gained one they were able to introduce certain measures. Even that traditional leftwing platforms. What happens in the pandemic past is that of course its been the capital. The American Labor and the fundamental victories for world war i. They have the current nationalist. What we need to do now is look through it carefully what aspects are available to push the agenda of workingclass people everyone wishes for instance that they have the tapping into everyones cell phone. Even in the most extreme cases. The israeli fbi enters principal Pandemic Response agency. And actually tried to a lot of us talk about this. What this kind of regimes when they will make this out of their crisis. Get folks to release, what you think about that whole area . The other being immigrants in detention, undocumented migrants. These are two big areas that overlap somewhat but not really. Your thoughts on both of these areas . Whats happening . What could be done. Guest concentrate on specific groups. 25 of peoples country of died so far in the pandemic. This is probably only the tip of the iceberg because outbreaks are within Nursing Homes across the country. I saw an article that said, i forget which budget which prison they were talking about whether it was at state or federal prison. But only 7 of the my minority or being considered for Early Release are africanamericans. So what we might expect in prisons and jail, is that whites collar criminals will be sent back home. I think even bernie made off, right now is getting ready for his Early Release. So people of color, drugs, are basically in a petri dish, waiting to be infected, and waiting to die. Its the same thing for people who were in detention cap and trade camps. Portugal did a wonderful thing. Its the largest party, the socialist party. They gave Citizen Rights including the on documented including the refugees. They are treated the same is in the portuguese citizen. Should be a universal demand. My nephew and his wife worked in a huge refugee camp and they have been reporting over the net about their experience. People are absolutely desperate. They feel they are just going to be sacrificed, particularly now that the right wing is back in government. Everywhere we first of all have to show solidarity. And secondly, every thing possible to draw attention to the people in jails, prisons, detention camps. Demand that everyone receive the same rights as any other american citizen, regardless of their status. Here is where we have to go back to the streets outside the prisons and jails. Outside the detention camps. 6 feet apart or 10 feet apart, whatever you want to do. You have to have social distancing. This is of the highest urgency everywhere in the country, my good friend will be talking about that. Host that will be a really good conversation. With several more questions about another area that you have long written about and analyzed. That is housing. It is an emergency right now across the country for many people, they are out of work and dealing with the disease. What do you think about this area . Whats going on . Theres calls across the country for rent strikes. What you think about that . She think there are programs we can advocate for it now in this moment around housing . The essential element of a program . Speech should take the case of california. Im not sure if this is on the state level or made a simple level. But i know and loss angeles, partial release has been given to renters and some evictions have been stopped. Some concessions have been made. And in each of those concessions is a little battlefield to universalize it the governor of california, governor newsom, has taken a step by buying motels and stuff. Use other facilities for emergency hospitals if needed. Now, marc mason is probably in brooklyn to right now. Suggested several years ago that we advocate, first of all for a census of un use, abandoned, or simply uninhabited buildings and residencies. And municipal eyes them. At least to the duration of the crisis. There is an enormous amount of unused space, homes, condos that simply are bought for speculation. In san diego has been conned out frenzy for years. Probably three quarters or 50 of them are un occupied it and bought as investments. They are like summer homes and only used two months out of the year. You should demand that those views for shelters that they be made available for the healthcare there is increasingly numbers of doctors have to separate themselves from their families. A friend of my wifes is a gt in seattle but had to move into a motel six so they wouldnt transfer the disease. Theres a myriad of opportunities to push for social use as the priority and to stop this. Host were headed into the last 15 minutes of this talk with mike davis. So going to try to group several more sets of questions and lots of really thoughtful comments and questions are coming in. A number of people also want to highlight the enormous challenges being faced by disabled folks right now. How they factor into the politics that often dont get factored into the politics of this and get ignored. You have thoughts about that . Guest yes. The model here may be ireland it has great social inequality. But a very rich tradition of protests with Strong Community organization. So what happened in ireland at the very beginning, after the first cases in ireland, somebody went on that net and begin to call for creating a volunteer organization that was active to check and on older people and disabled people. I have the impression that probably it is a horrible situation out there with tens of thousands disabled people who cannot get out the shop, portrayed, calling for deliveries if they have the money. They have to disinfect the mail, packages that have arrived, thats with the amazon strikers were trying to highlight. So far as i can see on the federal level and state level as well, there are no task force or constant trayce of resources to rescue people trapped for whatever reason if there disabled or sick. There is no National Idea of what to do certainly in the prisons and places we just talked about. We should be screaming at the top of our voice. With these things need to be done immediately. I am sure in the conversation thats occurring is just one way now. But it will be resolved and people can talk to each other. They can do that collectively across the country. Host just a couple more questions and then we will let you go. A couple of folks are wondering what you think about a guy named lucas asked how could this coronavirus pandemic cause and impact on the next election. The ongoing president ial race, move into the convention thats going to replace the convention, in the fall election. Several questions about what is your analysis of whats going on with that and how do we respond to that . Guest our current president , finds the pandemic that continues to be a good excuse to postpone it. That may seem an extreme scenario but we have to keep that in mind. I think right now or we need to be focused on is the Democratic Convention. Because, i think the reason Bernie Sanders hes flying them higher than ever. Because the Democratic ConventionPlatform Committee has to be overwhelms with voices demanding more from medicare for all is on the platform. This is the greatest lesson in history. Very dark lesson medicare for all in this crisis. The platforms more conceited candidates in different groups this has to be different. The trouble now is not to oppose of biden, but to control the platform. To force these policies that you expect voters, voters of color to vote for you november . Then you have to advocate this. You have to ban your position and take over the crucial parts of the platform. She was particularly outstanding because she was the person to bring the wealth tax this addressing our income inequality. But the normas wealth inequality is the basis for it. The political struggle has just begun. The fact that Convention May be virtual i dont know how that means how you act effectively. Yet this huge block of sanders of voters and some war and voters they should be in a good light. Theres a fight to the end over this. I think theres very good chance. Guest alright im going to throw one more question your weight that i think we can wrap up. This just a very basic question, but it strikes me as something we are all thinking about. Exposed by emily and it simply can you talk a little bit about the fear that this pandemic has cause . How do we deal with this . Guest fear is directly proportional to you in this disaster and emergency. If you are given a significant social responsibility, most people rise to the occasion. Here in california, we have been worried from the beginning about the big one, the great earthquakes and so on, those people have been told they wait to be dragged out of the rubble the professionals will handle it. Its the waves done in japan. For other countries. People are volunteers. Overall, the medical personnel are. Anybody with good skills, construction, at least you going to make sure the gas is turned off by the very essence of this shambolic response in this country, requires everything and undoubtedly many of them will die. Because of this. The same time its not giving the volunteer roles that are necessary. Its our resources with her act division. I think the general response has been extraordinary. Should be very cheered by it. It would be a need to take it to the next level and focus on the vulnerable groups continuing this part on universal coverage. Guest lets talk about this pandemic in a sense i was reading an journal about up a story says the plague epidemic played a central role in the shift of power to the mediterranean across the atlantic countries. Italy was the most affected, it was a total disaster for italy acrosstheboard. He was in banking and trade. This was to the advantage in great britain. Is it possible this pandemic is accelerating the decline of the United States. And chinas rise, not just military but economic, but to a level did not possess before. It is a major power right now sending aid to poor countries cuba, one of the heroes during the pandemic, the real help comes from china and i think we see a transitional time of power. Would have taken a much different course but its been sped up by the pandemic. Host what about the role of europe . Guest what is your bright now . The italians asked for help from france and ostrich jet austria to transfer medical supplies to italy. Where was the European Union . Its like the european refugee crisis. Each country is for itself. So i think we have to weigh the possibilities that the idea of the ui idea is dying right now. And brexit, and away is only a small part of that compared to the inability of your to share resources and to coordinate. Its pretty unbelievable. Host alright mike, i think we have taken up a lot of your time tonight. We are really grateful, it was so interesting and useful to have this teaching with mike davis. I think we are going to wrap up now. Let me just mention a few pieces of final housekeeping. One is that i hope folks will check out mikes book, you can preorder that. We have a special sale on this book 40 off at the website. So please look for set the night on fire. Over at the haymarket website a couple of mikes excellent books are on sale there for a 30 discount. There is in phases barbarian, essays against empire collection, which is very interesting. This very important book called no one is illegal citing racism and violence on the u. S. Mexican border. That is also available at the haymarket site. And in fact, actually, no one is illegal, is one of the free ebooks that haymarket is giving away right now. Haymarket is giving away a bunch of important political intervention books on ebooks right now. Its kind of a way to keep us armed during this lockdown. Theres also a free ebook offer with a bunch of topical books, one is on biden for example. I think that ebook giveaway ends tomorrow. In any case check out the site for those free books from haymarket. And then one more thing before folks go, just want to remind folks this series of teach ins is going to continue next week with a reaper prize of naomi klein, and others, the three of them are going to get together and bring us uptodate on what they are thinking. That is next thursday the link is below. The following week a really interesting discussion with ruby gilmore, and others who are experts on the incarceration state that we live in, long time leading historians and analysts on that. They will talk on april 16. To infer both of those, you can sign up for both of those events on eventbrites. Please check out haymarket books, and buy books if you can. Right now we couldnt really use the help. Thank you, mike, for joining us tonight. Guest thank you for everyone who tuned into this. Host alright good night everyone. Here are some of the current bestselling nonfiction books according to washington d. C. s politics and prose bookstore. Topping the list is jill banks with the watergate cases assistant prosecutor in the watergate girl. Then in counterpoint, pulitzer prizewinning credit, philip weighs in on Johan Sebastian bachs music. After that is a Global Optimism cofounders christina figure ist and tom thought on Climate Change in the future of humanity in the future we choose. That is followed by the splendid and the vial. Eric larson study of Prime MinisterWinston Churchills leadership during the london blitz and repping up our look at some of the bestselling nonfiction books in politics and prose bookstore is supreme inequality former New York TimesEditorial Board member adam cohens investigation on how the Supreme Court has become more conservative over the last 50 years. Some of these authors have appeared on book tv and you can watch them online booktv. Org. Joining us now in book tv is a Bradley Graham he is the coowner of politics and prose bookstore here in washington d. C. Along with his wife. Mr. Graham what is been the effect of the Coronavirus Crisis on your business . It has been pretty severe on us as it has been on many retailers around the country