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immediate politics of trying to stop or start this bill this week and get to the substance, that's a down the line question for next month at the earliest if they finish it this week. >> the political reality republicans are grappling with and karoun hits it exactly is the idea of deficit reduction, appealing to many fiscal conservatives, but really sort of, you know, a generalized amorphous idea, the deficit is big, we need to get it down, important for the future generation. 22 million fewer people having coverage is a much more easily understandable hit you in your home, know someone who loses coverage issue, and therefore much more politically powerful, so the problem is the carrot for republicans here is teenie, and the stick is huge politically speaking. >> it's a big dollar amount but health care doesn't speak to

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