questions. >> i think john kelly is not a politician. he has never been a politician. he's a marine. he's dedicated to the mission that this country's involved with. he's dedicated to whoever is commander in chief. and john, you know, speaks from the heart. so i respect, you know, john's feelings here. but i think john also has to recognize that when he goes out there he's no longer a four-star marine. he's chief of staff to president trump. >> secretary panetta, i appreciate your time, thank you. >> thank you. >> up next tonight, more breaking news, two former presidents take on the current commander in chief and the state of politics in america, the critiques president obama and bush have for the trump brand of politics in a moment. at stanford health care,