you're looking at medicine, you're looking at the advanced thinking. >> i'll agree with you, there's nothing more political than food. >> you got it. >> chef mike latta's restaurant, fig, was one of the first and most important on the charleston scene. determined to source the kind of local products you used to find everywhere in the low country. as much as i'd like to illustrate that solid grounding in traditional ingredients and preparations with my order, i would not resist the soft shell crabs which are just in season, with a pasta and shaved bottarga which frankly i'd slit my best friend's throat for. wow, that looks great. >> yeah. >> that's beautiful. sweet. when you had your first plate full of proper rice, is there an instinct to bludgeon the rest of the world in an understanding of what you'd just come to understand? >> i did not run up and down the streets of charleston. it was tough to dislodge people here, so i just went straight to san francisco. >> right.