>> first, the president has not been helpful. every opportunity he has where you think you are moving forward, he changes his mind after he talks to someone else on his staff. so the president has not exercised the leadership we need from the president of the united states. that's why many of us believe when you start casting blame, president trump should have been much more engaged and could have avoided the shutdown. so we think it is his shutdown. where i vote is depending on how the caucus goes today. i think our caucus today will get an update from senator schumer. >> all right. make sure to remind senator schumer. obviously the minority leader is welcome on the show. we keep inviting him. 2013 he called what's happening right now madness, that it shouldn't be allowed to happen. remind him of that.