if i was running a campaign and inoue the fbi sent somebody to infiltrate and collect information on people in my campaign, and send it back, i still wouldn't like it. >> they're not infiltrating the company, as you said tray gowdy says the target is russia not the president. they're basically having to interview these people about russia. >> right but there were people there -- >> the issue has been all along there's george papadopoulos -- on one han you're saying it's the infiltration of the campaign, the heart of the campaign, and it's interview with these peripheral characters, you know. >> yeah, what i'm saying is i still wouldn't like it. i think that's what the president's point is -- well, i don't know what his point is. for me, i wouldn't like it. >> if all fairness, that's not the president's point, this is a full-blown conspiracy theory by