i think our needs are different. >> so for you it is just racial symbolism? >> no, i mean it is -- oh, my god, that sounds terrible. i'm so much more than just black. i'm very proud to be black, but i think that the same question with being a woman. it seems like it is a rise and an upheaval of something new and different. i think that's legitimate. i think that not just being a woman, but being a black woman is a game changer. >> what difference does it make, the identity of the canned though? who cares if the person is black or if it is white or male or female? >> well, it is part of white privilege. my race as well as my gender identity, my everyday decisions in my world, it is who i am. >> well, i think each and every one of us are privileged to be in this country, regardless of race. >> i agree with you. i agree with you. i'm super nervous about coming here. >> why? >> the etching in stone is a monument to domestic terrorism.