>> let me say that i agree with you that this happens. i agree with you that there is racism in our judicial system and young people are put away just because maybe a white accuser is credible. and there's a tradition on the democratic side to say we have due process. just because someone remembers something and is credible doesn't mean you convict them. >> you're making a fake argument. this was not a criminal trial. this was a job interview. this was -- this is not a proof beyond a reasonable doubt standard. >> but he was accused of a crime. >> let me finish. this is a job interview where, for example, you might say, i'm considering hiring you as a babysitter for my kid. there are three credible accusations that you're -- that you engaged in sexual abuse. are you going to hire that person? >> can i argue with that analogy? i'm trying to hire a babysitter. the babysitter is accused of things, but then i find out a rival babysitter is the person