business part of what he does, trying to get this tower in moscow, this trump tower in moscow. >> that's right. i mean you kind of have to laugh at donald trump constantly protesting, no collusion, no collusion, no collusion, no smocking gun, et cetera, when you see more and more evidence of collusion, with the fact that there were at least 16 trump aides who had contacts with the russians, a total of almost 100 contacts that we know about. and some of them incredibly suspicious, things that if they had come out during the campaign could well have sunk the trump campaign. i mean imagine if we had known that the trump high command was meeting with russians who were promising dirt on hillary clinton right before they actually started leaking dirt through wikileaks. i mean that is highly suggestive, and so is the fact that trump and his aides have consistently lied about that and not just lied about it, but donald trump has also obstructed justice to stop the investigation of what happened. so i mean you can't imagine a more nefarious or suggestive set of facts, don. >> i want to read this and get your reaction to this. this is a letter by 44 former senators in "the washington post" tonight. they write, max, whatever united or divided us, we did not veer from our unwavering and shared commitment to placing our country democracy and national interest above all else. at other critical moments in our